here's another idea, how about a prize for the three blocks that recycle
the most... however I see that that also is impractical, since you'd have
to weight them or see the bulk and it could go to a fraternity that has a
huge beer party...
        oh well, it is as most things, try persuasion...

At 10:37 PM -0400 6/20/2002, Jon P. Mourar wrote:
>   In my message yesterday, I suggested it would be better that the Streets
>Dept. fine both those who don't recycle at all, and those who mix their
>recyclables in with their trash, rather than pick on poor folks like Roger
>Harman, who are recycling, but putting newspapers in plastic bags to keep
>them from getting wet.
>   I realized soon after I sent the thing that there was an obvious problem
>with my statement, and I expected some comments! Sure enough, today I heard
>from Steph99, the first person who asked about "not recycling at all". When
>you think about it, it's obvious that that particular aspect is almost
>impossible to enforce! I don't see how they could possibly require each
>household to put some recyclable(s) in the blue bucket every 2 weeks. What
>if you have no recyclables accumulated (hard to believe, but possible)?
>Maybe you would have to put out the empty bucket to show there is none? But
>what if you are away on vacation, and have no trash at all? I'm sure the
>trash guys are not checking off addresses as they pick stuff up anyway. That
>would be an enforcement nightmare.
>   I would have to guess, that as long as you don't mix recycling stuff with
>trash, that they couldn't possibly fine you. In fact, I'll be pretty
>surprised if they actually fine people who mix it with their trash (although
>I would love to see it happen!). Are they going to start examining what's in
>trash bags? How much will they have to pay union laborers to do that? It may
>be worth it, though, as 100% recycling compliance (or anything approaching
>it) would greatly reduce the city's costs for disposing of waste.
>   I expect if it happens, there will be occasional random checking by
>special workers, probably the SWEEP officers (Streets Dept. Enforcement ).
>   Why don't we all just recycle like we're supposed to, and save the extra
>money necessary for enforcement for other needed services? (I know, hopeless
>utopian thinking).
>        Jon Mourar
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "steph99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [UC] Recycling -- the fickle finger of fate
>
>
>> There are many weeks that I don't create enough trash or recyclables to
>bother
>> taking it out.  Is it possible to be penalized for not putting out a
>container
>> if you have nothing to put out?
>>
>> ps, I compost in my kitchen which really helps keep trash levels down.
>Besides
>> the occasional battle with fruitflies, it's pretty neat and great for the
>> garden.  Anyone wanting a starting point for home/apt composting write
>> privately.
>>
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