Re: [UC] Will stray dogs use the proposed dog run? Hmm.

[FX Winkler]

Dogs kill dogs, why not kids?

 

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Sharon Nicolary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just as long as you understand that your dogs are animals and no matter how
much love you give them, Pitt Bulls have an aggressive tendency. Read Bill's
message about that.

I have mentioned this before on the list, but in case you were not around then,
I too have had a very serious bad experience with a beautiful Chow Chow that
was very sweet to me. She bit one of my friends as she was throwing away
something in our trashcan. They are animals. You just need to be very
careful, especially with Pit Bulls. I know you love your animals, but please
don't take offense to Liz's comments and other people. Please just understand
that these comments are reasonable and important for all of us to consider to
make our neighborhood a safe one.

I am glad to know that you keep them on leashes.

Sharon Nicolary

Quoting Christine! Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> First -- The dog park at 48th and Cedar is a member
> only park. How does one find out about membership?
> Furthermore, why should I have to pay in addition to
> my taxes to let my dog run, when the city builds and
> maintains playgrounds & c. A fenced in area provided
> by the city is NOT too much to ask.
>
> Dogs and dog owners are one of the primary
> users/stakeholders of Clark Park. I don't care if a
> fence would MAR your "oasis." Maybe some people think
> that the screaming children "mar the oasis." It is
> not for the dogs, per se, but for the owners, too.
> The dog culture of the neighborhood has completely
> changed since the park at 43rd and Spruce was taken
> away...
>
> Liz said: > > Dog owners should give serious thought
> to the size and breed of their pets.
>
> To this I say, HORSE ! PUCKEY. I am so tired of the
> obnoxious comments of this list discriminating against
> pits, rotties, & c. It is ridiculous. These breeds
> tend to not be human aggressive at ALL. They were not
> bred to be aggressive against humans. Peroid.
>
> One more thing: the two dogs we have in our house,
> both pitts, both Fairmount Park strays, have had an
> undeservedly rough life. In their short lives they
> have probably seen more abuse than anyone here, and
> they do not deserve the bad rap that they have gotten.
> And, for the record, do not refer to me as a moron or
> idiot or whatever if you see me walking both of
> them... well... THAT will probably really make me
> mad.
>
> CMM
>
>
>
>
>
> > Quoting "Elizabeth F. Campion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >
> > > Much can achieved by passion.
> > ! > Passion is more an empowering rain than an
> > obstructive cloud.
> > >
> > > I can't imagine winning a war of words against
> > parents who have had their
> > > children attacked.
> > > We (parents, even dog owning parents) will resort
> > to Boots or Mace or
> > > Man-bites-Dog in defense of our children.
> > >
> > > Dog owners don't win if a generation is coming up
> > terrorized by free
> > > running canines.
> > > We have read the testimony of strong, sensible
> > people who are sad and
> > > angry at the need to defend their children against
> > the dogs of owners who
> > > are violating the law in fact (or spirit when the
> > leash does not
> > > control).
> > >
> > > Bruce's toddler was not merely "knocked over" by a
> > "puppy! ". Father and
> > > Child were thrust into adrenalin mode by someone
> > who couldn't honor the
> > > law or admit the consequences of her bad choices.
> > >
> > > It was nine days before Julia could leave the
> > house, and than only to
> > > attend a Christmas Mass. Her injuries were major,
> > but the outcome could
> > > have been worse. A canine tooth slid off the
> > femoral artery, so profound
> > > damage did not include a bleed-out. Her daughter,
> > survived a near
> > > (distance in inches) fatal bite mostly intact, but
> > is now afraid of even
> > > my dogs, pets who have always been her friends.
> > >
> > > Amy's son is a fearless and talented athlete. But
> > he won't brave Clark
> > > Park. He is a smart kid with a good imagination
> > and he has determin! ed it
> > > is not worth the risk.
> > >
> > > Richard and Holly are good neighbors who should
> > have the safe use of the
> > > park for their small family.
> > > Safe means feeling safe. And most people do not
> > feel safe in the
> > > presence of strange, unleashed dogs.
> > >
> > > I am always hearing dog owners saying that their
> > pets are like children.
> > > But, I don't always see the evidence of it.
> > > As a parent, I will pay for parochial school and
> > walk my kids to it.
> > > I'll provide adequate food, clothing, shelter and
> > supplies. But dog
> > > owners won't even walk as far as the Dog Park at
> > 48th & Chester. They
> > > whine about their "benefit" to the community and
> > "demand" equal rights...
>
> this is k! ind of a snotty thing to say.
>
> > > but things are not equal. Dogs are not Children.
> > And, we should value
> > > children more than pets.
> > >
> > > We have a beautiful park, in Clark Park.
> > > Separately, we have a fabulous Dog Park and many
> > great and convenient Rec
> > > Centers.
> > > We don't need to mar the appearance of our one
> > oasis with Dog Runs and
> > > utilitarian fencing. We shouldn't consider
> > installing the noise and
> > > smell of a dog run / toilet next to the Home of
> > the Merciful Savior,
> > > where children have limited mobility. And we
> > clearly don't need a
> > > nuisance which attracts even more dogs to Clark
> > Park, since children are
> > > being attacked by dogs on their way to the park.
> > >
> IF THE! RE WERE A FENCED IN AREA, HOW MANY ATTACKS DO
> YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE?
>
> > > What we need is folks who make better choices.
> > > Dog owners should give serious thought to the size
> > and breed of their
> > > pets.
> > > Dog ownership should be postponed until the
> > prospective owner has the
> > > skills and setup to properly train and shelter a
> > dog. Landlords should
> > > not permit dangerous dogs in apartments accessed
> > by common hallways.
>
> WHAT, EXACTLY, IS A DANGEROUS DOG? ALL DOGS ARE
> DANGEROUS, BY YOUR DEFINITION.
>
> > > Victims should hold the owners of dogs responsible
> > for the damages caused
> > > by their pets; and this can be everything from
> > clothes cut off in the
> > > emergency room to flower beds yellowed and
> > stained.
> >! >
> > > I love my dogs, and I remind them of their
> > training with frequent
> > > run-through of commands. But, I don't trust my
> > dogs at or to the free
> > > for all of the bowl at Clark Park.
> > >
> > > Just one dog owners opinion.
> > >
> > > All the best in 2004 and beyond.
> > > Liz
> > >
> > > On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:46:57 -0500 (EST) John
> > Ellingsworth
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:
> > > > Your logic seems to be clouded by your passions.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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