Okay, I don't mean to be impolite, but this to me seems just silly. I live two blocks away and would be glad to have another take-out option open until midnight. But that's besides the point. What's silly is the stated objections.
Doesn't Gojjo offer take-out until midnight already? A half block away. What about the 24 hour gas station/convenience store a block away. You would want that to be closed? There are already about a dozen bars/restaurants that operate at similar hours already within a block of the location. It's not as if baltimore ave is a raucous place late at night or that one more restaurant is going to change that. I'm relatively new to the list so hopefully I'm not beating a dead horse but I was too incredulous not to say anything. -Jesse On 2/17/04 1:49 PM, "Marielena Mata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that a number of people have questions with regards to the > opposition to a take-out business. For that purpose, I am pasting the test > of the petition that CPPNA is submitting at the time of the hearing. It > lays out a number of reasons for the opposition. > > Maty > > > To Whom It May Concern: > > We, the neighbors request that a zoning variance for a take-out operation > NOT be granted for the property located on 4610 Cedar Avenue. 4610 Cedar > Avenue is an attractive location for a business given its direct access to > both a commercial corridor and a residential neighborhood. But it is this > proximity to a residential neighborhood that makes a take-out business an > inappropriate use of the space for the following reasons: > > 1. Trash: Normally, trash generated by a take-out business is greater than > that generated by a regular eat-in operation both from the business side and > the patron side. As it is, trash management for an eat-in operation in this > location is not sufficient at this time. We, the neighbors, have been > trying to work with the current tenants to address the issue of garbage > management before they open an eat-in restaurant (Please refer to > "Neighborhood Development and Operating Agreement" document). We, the > neighbors, are concerned that a take-out operation will result in increased > trash in the neighborhood with its accompanying consequences, increased > pests (rodents and insects), refuse smells and blight. > > 2. Traffic: A take �out business will have a direct impact on traffic in > the neighborhood. The parking lot of this property accesses Cedar Avenue > directly, increasing traffic. This is particularly true if, as stated by > the tenants, they aim to attract the taxi driver population. An increase in > traffic will increase the incidence of noise, traffic violations and > accidents. In addition, loitering and cars parked on the lot, two activities > that tend to attract crime and blight, will also increase. > > 3. Parking: Although this property has a parking lot, this lot does not > have the capacity to support a take-out operation, particularly at peak > hours. This is a concern as parking is already limited in the neighborhood > and cannot accommodate the increased demand set by a take-out operation. As > a consequence, we would see an increase in parking violations with resulting > increased risks to both drivers and pedestrians. > > 4. Noise levels and operating hours: In previous discussions with the > property tenants, they have talked about possible hours of operations being > 12 noon to 12 am, 7 days/week. Such hours will result in heavy traffic and > increased noise levels until the early hours of the morning throughout the > week in a peaceful residential neighborhood where children and working > adults need to get adequate rest. > > 5. The tenants: West Philadelphia, and in particular, the Baltimore Corridor > have been great examples of the fight against blight as a result of the > collaborations between neighbors and business owners willing to work > together for the betterment of the community. It has been our experience > that the current tenants are not willing to work with us and have been > deceitful to the local government, the property owners and the community at > large (please, refer to attached documentation). The current tenants > falsified documents to acquire permits illegally and have failed to follow > L&I and other governmental agencies� instructions over and over again. The > tenants also failed to notify the property owners that they intended to open > a restaurant and that they would carry on remodeling projects to add a > kitchen to the property. Finally, the tenants have made promises to the > community and failed to keep them, knowing very well that the community > would fight them if they pursued certain types of businesses, such as a > restaurant. The most relevant of these empty promises was the one of not > opening a take-out business in this property. > Based on the aforesaid information and attached documentation, the residents > of the 46th and Cedar Avenue block and neighbors strongly object to this > zoning variance and respectfully request that such variance be denied. > > > > > >> From: "Dan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: "Dan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gerardo Razumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [UC] Re: 4610 Cedar Avenue Take out Zoning Hearing rescheduled >> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:24:29 -0500 >> >> I agree. Why is it bad to have take out there? Why is the general public >> opposed to it? Are they intending to have late hours? Will they have >> delivery service? It didn't work as a dollar store, or a laundry mat, so >> why >> not? It's a crucial spot for the right business. Let them try...let them >> eat >> cake! >> >> Dan Myers >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gerardo Razumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:37 AM >> Subject: [UC] Re: 4610 Cedar Avenue Take out Zoning Hearing rescheduled >> >> >>> I cannot understand why the neighbors are opposed. Baltimore Ave. is a >>> commercial corridor; that corner is heavily commercial, with a gas >>> station and a used furniture store across the street, and several other >>> stores nearby. The site has a parking area, which is a guarantee >>> against double parking, so prevalent and annoying at other take out >>> places. Attempts to develop other uses have failed; clearly it is not >>> good to have an empty site. Can someone explain why it is a bad idea? >>> Is there another viable plan for the site? Or is it just a desire to >>> transform the entire area back into an isolated residential dream land? >>> I hope not! >>> >>> Gerardo Razumney >>> >>> >>> Marielena Mata wrote: >>> >>>> hello all, >>>> >>>> A Zoning Hearing has been rescheduled for the property on 46th, Cedar >>>> Avenue and Baltimore Avenue (Le Mandingue Restaurant, which has not >>>> opened). As mentioned before in these listservs, the neighbors of the >>>> Cedar Park Point Neighborhood Association (CPPNA) are opposed to a >>>> take-out restaurant in this location. If you would like to show your >>>> support, the hearing is scheduled for wednesday, February 18, 2004 at >>>> 3:30 pm. The location is 1515 Arch Street, 18th floor, Philadelphia. >>>> >>>> If you need a recap of this situation, let me know and I will forward >> to >>>> you previous e-mails. >>>> >>>> >>>> Maty >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage � 4 plans to choose >>>> from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ---- >>> You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the >>> list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see >>> <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. >> >> ---- >> You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the >> list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see >> <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get fast, reliable access with MSN 9 Dial-up. 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