Several years ago, Chris, my spouse, took pictures of tree lawns with brick paths and low iron border fences in Chicago's Gold Coast neighborhood. Last summer, we laid brick pavers in our tree lawn in similar fashion, and set Victorian style iron boarder fences into concrete footers on three sides of the two rectangular planting areas. There is a brick walk about 14" wide on the curb side. Car doors open easily, and passengers can walk the path, rather than stepping into the planting area. So far we have not had any problems with dog turds in the planting areas, or with passersby trampling on the plantings or picking the flowers, even though a lot of elementary school and high school students pass by our house twice a day.

If anyone is interested in taking a look, I can attach a photograph (sorry, we don't have a website.

Elliot

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(not readable on all platforms) On 28 Apr 2004, at 16:42, Karen Heenan wrote:


Roses are not the answer, either, if you want your garden to remain unmolested. I have several rose bushes in my front yard, and while no one has ever pulled them out, someone does come along with scissors every spring and summer and cuts the nicest flowers for themselves.


Karen

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Subject: Re: [UC] fence vandalism
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:23:11 -0400

Almost every week, I try to watch the kids go by around school dismissal.
(when I am around) I put up a brick border deep in the ground around my
street tree and other bulbs and plants to protect them. One day actually saw
a kid of maybe 6 years old pick up one of the bricks and threaten another
kid with it. Where were these kids parents or guardians? I luckily told the
kid put that down, and put it back where you found it. What happens when I'm
not around? I wonder. I fix my bricks almost every week because people like
to step on them? I highly doubt squirels, but I am not leaving them out of
the picture.


I guess the trick is to plant flowers that are not single (like tulips and
daffodils). And so that they are not accessible to pedestrians. Plant a
holly or a rose bush, that'll teach them!


Dan Myers
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> Hi, all,
>
> Two weeks ago, I put up a small wire fence around my garden plot between
> the sidewalk and the curb in front of my house. It was meant to keep out
> trash, dogs, and people who might accidentally step on flowers. It was
> also meant to protect my sick street tree.
>
> Soon after the fence was set up, people were stepping (accidentally, I
> assume) on the fence, knocking it over and bending the wire. Then, someone
> pulled up a lot of it and also pushed the tree over. I fixed the fence
> each time. Today my boyfriend saw someone pull up part of the fence and
> throw it on the ground. I am mystified.
>
> Has anyone else had similar experiences? No wonder some urban gardeners
> refer to a garden between the sidewalk and curb as the "hellstrip"!
>
> Sarah
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