'back in the day' when I lived at 46th near Spruce, I would often get off
the El at 46th at night.  I never thought twice about it until one day I
noticed as I was cutting across the parking lot on Farragut north of
Chestnut that there was a man following me and catching up rather quickly.
I quickened my pace and changed direction, towards the Texaco just below
Chestnut.  He matched my actions.

I'm not used to anybody trying things with me.  I'm 6'3" and ~230# which
gives me a different perspective on sketchy areas than someone who was say
5'1" and 100#.

So anyway, I darted across a mostly empty Chestnut street (it was 'round
about midnight this fine winter evening) and walked into the Texaco store
with the mystey follower after me.  He looked very surprised and uncertain
as he tried to decide whether to follow me into the store or not.
Eventually he turned away from the door and I was running out the door on
the other side and sprinting for 46th street and home.  I felt a lot more
comfortable when I reached Walnut street which isn't really much lighter but
certainly has more of a chance of people being out and about throwing
garbage onto Kyles lawn or cursing at each other near the Watusi Pub.  I
believe Jane Jacobs refers to this as "eyes on the street".

Anyway, I started to take the 21 bus at night after that experience.  It was
a little slower, but I felt a lot more comfortable getting off on 46th and
Walnut instead of 46th and Market.  The amount of light was never an issue
for me; I was more interested in having as many fellow citizens around me as
possible.

I now live near 48th and Baltimore.  It is dark and residential but there
are people wondering around and I have never felt even a little nervous
there.  I know people are breaking into cars right around the corner but
most of the time there are folks coming out of bars or perhaps even going to
some event at Calvary that doesn't make me worry about my personal
well-being.

Just my $.02.
-scott


Well, as I said in the post that the problem I have personally w/the 
Farragut Street El stop is multifactorial, and stems mainly from the fact 
that the area is A) desolate, meaning there aren't many stores open at night

and no restaurants or anything like that and B) that it is poorly lit. I 
personally have very, very poor night vision (as a result of having very 
poor regular vision---in ophthalmologic circles it is called "high myopia"),

so yes, I have to say that I personally like to have light.

And yes, if there were nice businesses that kept a fairly good clientele 
into the evening, I might feel differently. But what to businesses like that

usually bring with them? Light.



>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [UC] Rethinking Outdoor Security Lighting & People
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:37:25 EDT
>
>
>In a message dated 9/10/2004 10:00:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>walking*?
>...For this reason, I will not take the El to 46th Street alone if it's 
>late and dark, because the area around there is very, VERY poorly lit. 
>The desolation (lack of open stores, etc) contributes, but the main 
>problem for me is the lighting.
>
>
>
>If there was a greater level of civil night life or the knowledge there 
>was no drinkin, druggin, gamblin, n sex, how much more 
>comfortable/confident would
>  you be alone?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Craig

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