Good point. That's why I think it's a good idea for some of us to get in the habit of actually writing or calling our representatives, instead of signing our names to the bottom of email petitions that don't go anywhere. You might think that writing in loses its effectiveness, but the truth is that the reps' offices pay people to tally up the support or lack thereof for various issues. Think of your whatever opinion you send them as a vote of sorts. They just need to know where their constituents stand, as opposed to only hearing from the usual vocal special interests. I think the Constitution Center site is very useful for writing our reps, so I thought I would pass that info along, regardless of the A.G. issue.
ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Nachmias [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:37 PM To: Dubin, Elisabeth Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Attorney General selection In my opinion, this is a total wste of time. As Senator Leahy said, "At this point the President could get Genghis Khan confimed as Attorney Gneeral," Mass email protests lose thier effectiveness if they are used too often. They should be saved for occaions when they might do some good. Jacob Nachmias ~ ~ According to several news sources (here's one: ~ http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=3D124321&SecID=3D2 ~ <http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=3D124321&SecID=3D2> = ~ ), ~ Bush just selected Alberto Gonzales to be his new Attorney General. I ~ don't know too much about him, but he did recommend to the President (in ~ his role as "counsel") that the U.S. not be bound by the provisions of ~ the Geneva Convention in dealing with prisoners of war. He also was ~ counsel to Enron. Read below for what a friend has to say about him:=20 ~ =20 ~ "Gonzales had been Enron chief counsel before whole thing broke, but not ~ before illegal practices started. i am not sure exactly what role he ~ played in setting up the shell game there but i do know he drafted the ~ briefs suggesting that at Gitmo there was no need to uphold Geneva ~ conventions--and this later got extended out to Afghanistan and the ~ Iraq. lots of stuff on this by Seymour Hirsch (sp?) in the New Yorker ~ over the past year or so... basically the argument is that enemy ~ combatants do not require the same sorts of legal protections as ~ POWs...which is bogus and is also getting people like McCain and Powell ~ up in arms because if it doesn't apply to the folks we're grabbing, then ~ why should it apply to US POWS?" ~ =20 ~ If you're interested in defeating his nomination in the senate, write ~ your senators and representative now. Even if you're not, here's a good ~ site to know about: ~ =20 ~ http://capwiz.com/constitutioncenter/home/ ~ =20 ~ At the Constitution Center's website, there's a button called "Citizen ~ Action" where you can write to your senators and rep. and the pres. in ~ one fell swoop. Very useful for this type of thing, no cutting or ~ pasting involved. ~ =20 ~ Forward widely. I want people to know about the Constitution Center ~ site for whatever issues they care to communicate about. Our senators ~ need to know more than ever how we wish to be represented. ~ =20 ~ =20 ~ =20 ~ =20 ~ ELISABETH DUBIN ~ Hillier ARCHITECTURE ~ One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F ~ 215 636-9989 | hillier.com=20 ~ =20 ~ ~ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4C764.8189EFC9 ~ Content-Type: text/html; ~ charset="us-ascii" ~ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ~ ~ <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ~ <HTML><HEAD> ~ <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = ~ charset=3Dus-ascii"> ~ <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1476" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> ~ <BODY> ~ <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT = ~ face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2>According to several news sources (here's one: </FONT><A=20 ~ href=3D"http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=3D124321& S= ~ ecID=3D2"><FONT=20 ~ face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2>http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=3D124321& ;= ~ SecID=3D2</FONT></A><FONT=20 ~ face=3DArial size=3D2>), Bush just selected Alberto Gonzales to be his = ~ new Attorney=20 ~ General. I don't know too much about him, but he did recommend to = ~ the=20 ~ President (in his role as "counsel") that the U.S. not be bound by the=20 ~ provisions of the Geneva Convention in dealing with prisoners of = ~ war. He=20 ~ also was counsel to Enron. Read below for wh<SPAN=20 ~ class=3D650233120-10112004>at a</SPAN><SPAN class=3D650233120-10112004>=20 ~ friend</SPAN> has to say about him: </FONT></SPAN></DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004>"Gonzales had been Enron chief = ~ counsel=20 ~ before whole thing broke, but not before illegal practices started. i am = ~ not=20 ~ sure exactly what role he played in setting up the shell game there but = ~ i do=20 ~ know he drafted the briefs suggesting that at Gitmo there was no = ~ need to=20 ~ uphold Geneva conventions--and this later got extended out to = ~ Afghanistan and=20 ~ the Iraq. lots of stuff on this by Seymour Hirsch (sp?) in the New = ~ Yorker over=20 ~ the past year or so... basically the argument is that enemy combatants = ~ do not=20 ~ require the same sorts of legal protections as POWs...which is bogus and = ~ is also=20 ~ getting people like McCain and Powell up in arms because if it doesn't = ~ apply to=20 ~ the folks we're grabbing, then why should it apply to US = ~ POWS?"</SPAN></DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If = ~ you're interested=20 ~ in defeating his nomination in the senate, write your senators and=20 ~ representative now. Even if you're not, here's a good site to know = ~ ~ about:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004></SPAN><SPAN=20 ~ class=3D078445418-10112004></SPAN><SPAN = ~ class=3D078445418-10112004></SPAN><SPAN=20 ~ class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial = ~ size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 ~ href=3D"http://capwiz.com/constitutioncenter/home/";>http://capwiz.com/co n= ~ stitutioncenter/home/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At = ~ the <SPAN=20 ~ class=3D650233120-10112004> C</SPAN>onstitution <SPAN=20 ~ class=3D650233120-10112004>C</SPAN>enter's website, there's a button = ~ called=20 ~ "Citizen Action" where you can write to your senators and rep. and the = ~ pres. in=20 ~ one fell swoop. Very useful for this type of thing, no cutting or = ~ pasting=20 ~ involved.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial = ~ size=3D2>Forward=20 ~ widely. I want people to know about the Constitution Center site = ~ for=20 ~ whatever issues they care to communicate about. Our senators need = ~ to know=20 ~ more than ever how we wish to be represented.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV><SPAN class=3D078445418-10112004><FONT face=3DArial=20 ~ size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> ~ <DIV> </DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>ELISABETH=20 ~ DUBIN</FONT></STRONG><FONT color=3D#808080><BR><STRONG><FONT = ~ face=3D"Arial Black"=20 ~ color=3D#ff6600 size=3D3>Hillier</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>=20 ~ </FONT></STRONG><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#808080=20 ~ size=3D2><STRONG>ARCHITECTURE<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT color=3D#808080 = ~ size=3D1>One=20 ~ South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F 215 = ~ 636-9989=20 ~ | hillier.com</FONT></FONT></FONT>=20 ~ <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ~ ~ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4C764.8189EFC9-- ~ ---- ~ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the ~ list named "UnivCity." 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