Or so I've heard, Cass.
ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cass Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] DANGER: 4600 Hazel Street- Criminals Running Rampant Nope. Join the Town Match or sit out on your porch on 4600 BLOCK OF HAZEL STREET with Sam and Andy cleaning your shotguns. That will improve property values. Jonathan A. Cass -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:27 PM To: Jonathan Cass Cc: University City List Subject: Re: [UC] attempted mugging Can we please take the geographic reference out of the subject line. Every time you relive your war stories or cleverly banter your witty repartee, the property values on our block drop by about $100. Steve Metraux 4600 block Hazel Ave. Quoting Jonathan Cass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Stephen: > > I, of course, wasn't on the porch and didn't witness what happened, > but I find it hard to believe that these nice young girls would behave > the way you > have described without some type of provocation. This sounds a lot > like the > situation described by Pete in which he acted agressively towards some local > youths only to find out that they were well prepared to defend themselves. > > Although my day-to-day experience with today's teenagers is limited to > my trolley ride back and forth to Center City, I can say, without > exception, that the behavior of the teenagers that I ride with is just terrific. They > are, almost without exception, kind, courteous, and, of course, well spoken. > (I know that Bill Cosby has given some well publicized speaches complaining > about African-American youth, but I, for one, think he is talking crazy!). > More than once, a pleasant, freshly scrubbed teenager, knowing that I > find it > difficult to read the paper while standing, has offered me his or her seat. > > Anyway, thanks for the kind words concerning my postings. > > Jonathan > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Stephen Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Stephen Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 10:23:59 -0500 > > > > I think you may have deserved the beating your received for acting > > > so aggressively to these young boys. > > > >i think you and sam are way off here. when someone initiates a > >mugging, that's pretty darn aggressive. they clearly set the tone > >and i think it was very reasonable for pete to push back. > >unfortunately in this case it ended up badly. > > > > > I am sure their response was not intended to be vicious, but > > > instead was an appropriate act of self-defense. > > > >the guys were carrying bats! you think they were just heading to the > >ball field to hit a few and just decided to mug pete because he was > >there? they were clearly out to cause problems and unfortunately > >pete ended up a target. this was a vicious attack. there is nothing > >'self-defense' about continuing to hit a guy who's obviously unconscious. > > > > > You should be ashamed of yourself. > > > >jonathan, i think you should be ashamed of yourself. i usually > >respect your postings. i feel this one is way off the mark. > > > >btw, a few weeks ago (around 9pm at night), a friend was attacked on > >her porch at the corner of 45th and Chester. my friend was sitting > >on her porch drinking some tea and 6 high school aged girls > >approached her. 3 stayed on the street apparently as lookouts while > >the other 3 came onto her porch and started to push her around. she > >was fortunately able to get into her house AND keep them out -- the 3 > >tried to push their way into her house as well. do not underestimate > >the violent nature of many kids these days... > > > >happy saturday, > >stephen > > > > > >Jonathan Cass wrote: > >> Pete: > >> > >> I agree with Sam on this one. I think you may have deserved the > >> beating your received for acting so aggressively to these young boys. > >> I am sure their response was not intended to be vicious, but > >> instead was an appropriate act of self-defense. The part about > >> beating you unconscious, although obviously a bit over the top, is > >> a merely an indication of the fear your actions aroused in these > >> boys. You should be ashamed of yourself. > >> > >> Jonathan A. Cass > >> > >> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Samuel Nicolary > >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:19 PM To: Pete Coyle Cc: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] attempted mugging on > >> 4600 Hazel Ave > >> > >> > >> There is more to being a badass than: 'I pushed him in the chest > >> and almost knocked him down, and yelled "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"' > >> > >> Maybe that was your problem. You gotta be able to take the licks > >> as good as you can give them - and/or vice versa. > >> > >> Live free or die. > >> > >> -- Sam Nicolary > >> > >> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Pete Coyle wrote: > >> > >> > >>> I think the do not fight back advice is some of the best advice > >>> ever given on this list. I've put myself in many a dodgy > >>> situation in my youth. I've been in dangerous parts of Philly, NYC, Miami. > >>> Often drunk, or more. One time I decided to escape the city, and > >>> spent a summer living in Ithaca NY, and spend my time drawing > >>> comics/swimming in gorges. Around 7pm, on a tuesday, in a town > >>> full of Phish fans... I got mugged. A couple of high school kids > >>> jumped my friends and I. I figured being a badass from a real > >>> city that I could intimidate my attacker. I pushed him in the > >>> chest and almost knocked him down, and yelled "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" He > >>> beat me unconscious with a baseball bat. I don't remember much of > >>> the beating, but apparently it was pretty brutal. It took me > >>> months to recover. > >>> > >>> Stories where people intimidate thieves are very inspiring, but > >>> dont take the chance. > >>> > >>> People who use weapons on other people suck. > >>> > >>> Pete ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > >>> list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, > >>> see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > >>> > >> > >> ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list > >> named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > >> <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > >> > >> ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list > >> named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > >> <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > >---- > >You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named > >"UnivCity." 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