From:  Stephen Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date:  Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:34:10 -0500

   I'm not sure about Penn but I know at another university that the
   campus police were trained by the state, just like the city police,
   at the same police acadamy.   However, instead of
   working for the city, they worked for the university and their
   jurisdiction was limited to the university boundaries.  They
   didn't have a jail but rather just detained suspects until the city
   police arrived.  This was great for students because they
   got a much more responsive police presence but the city police
   didn't like it because the university police had effectively the
   same responsibilities but got much better pay and benefits.

Yup, same at Penn.  I've got a friend who was a Penn Cop, and he said
that between safer and more pleasant working conditions, better pay,
and better benefits (esp educational benefits), Penn pretty much gets
their pick.  And, the cops are motivated to keep everyone happy so
that they don't lose their jobs.  My friend used the tuition benefits
and is now doing computers, databases, networks, e-commerce, etc.  (I
met him back when he was a Penn Cop.)

So, from the other cops point of view, it's unfair that they get less
pay for the same responsabilities.  But from the Penn cop point of
view, if you work hard and graduate at the top of your class, or have
a good resume and experience, you can get a better job.

--- Chip

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