I get really tired of white-collar workers (and people in the upper middle 
class) who bemoan Unions, but who do nothing to help working people make a 
living wage.

In a message dated 12/7/2004 2:43:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ben Rhoades 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>At 02:32 PM 12/7/2004, Clinton, J. Scott wrote:
>I'd like to think that too, but do you shop at Wal-Mart?nbsp; A lot of people 
>are starting to make a distinction between quot;minimum wagequot; and 
>quot;living wagequot;.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Personally, I believe that my earnings 
>impart a responsibility upon me to use those monies wisely...a concept that 
>Christians refer to as quot;stewardshipquot;.nbsp; Because of my conviction, I 
>don't shop at Wal-Mart (though I do buy things from Home Despot...mostly out 
>of frustration and lack of selection at my local hardware stores) and I don't 
>feel that my biggest requirement in purchasing things is that the price be as 
>low as possible.nbsp; I am willing to pay more for a quality product.nbsp; I 
>believe that it benefits me as well as society for people to be able to earn a 
>living that allows them to live above the poverty line.
>
>Well, the Wal-mart example is a good one however, I do look at it sort of 
>different, and maybe I'm living in the 50s.nbsp; I see most of the people 
>working at as a job, not as a career.nbsp; I don't think of Wal-mart as a 
>career place other than maybe some management.nbsp; I shop there with that 
>mindset and think that many of the problems are people believing that their 
>job at Wal-mart should be something to support their family.nbsp; However, I 
>also I agree that you get what you pay for in terms of quality and I will 
>often pay more to get something I think will last longer.nbsp; 
>
>regarding the union and the turnpike, I would have to agree that the case is 
>completely unlike wal-mart.nbsp; I remember reading about a study that someone 
>did for a turnpike (might have been MA) for how to cut costs.nbsp; The 
>reccomendation was to eliminate fares because the cost of collecting them was 
>greater than the fares collected.nbsp; This is not the case on the PA 
>turnpike, but when EZ pass was launched, an agreement was reached that the EZ 
>pass would not eliminate any tolltaker jobs.nbsp; The turnpike is a political 
>entity, and eliminating patronage jobs is not the goal of any politician that 
>I know of.
>
>Yeah, it's interesting that doing things that would have a positive affect on 
>the greater good but bad for patronage turns out with patronage winning...
>
>Like most things, unions bring negatives along with their positives.
>
>Of course, this is true of almost anything.
>
>-Ben
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