On 2/1/07, Mike V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So what you're telling me is that there's no way to prove your
hypothesis? That's a shaky basis for an argument then, isn't it?
But there's got to be a way we can work this out. I'm not
interested in comparing non-violent drug crime here. I don't care
who smokes up in the privacy of their own home, dorm room, squat or
illegal gambling den. You mentioned a shooting, two murders and
two incidents of sexual malfeasance. Why don't we narrow the net
to, say, violent crimes and sex crimes (and violent sex crimes,
natch)?
YOU don't care who smokes up. How do these people get their
drugs? No, I don't want to narrow the net. I want to include all
the corporate evildoers and shady landlords who don't pay their
taxes on their properties. You're hypocritical if you only consider
"violent" crime as crime. The Zombie System *protects* white collar
criminals, who take much more money from us than kids on the street.
Go soak your head some more.
BTW the "dangerous Negro" quote is from J. Edgar Hoover, who called
Martin Luther King Jr "the most dangerous Negro in America."
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From: Ross Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:50 PM
To: Mike V.
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Violent Penn Students: Save Us, UCD!!!
On 2/1/07, Mike V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmmm. Well, I suppose you could have a point. The way you state
the argument actually makes sense.
You keep that list, Ross, and after a couple months let's compare
those crimes with muggings, assaults, robberies and other such
crimes in the neighborhood committed by, as you put it, "dangerous
Negrous west of the campus" committed in the same time period. I'd
be interested to see how the numbers shake down.
I'm serious.
There's a major problem in comparing lists, which is that white
Penn students don't get busted for trafficking in and indulging in
illegal drugs like marijuana and cocaine, whereas (particularly)
young black kids DO get busted. That's why the Gulag in this
country is full to bursting of black people arrested for drug
offenses. It's a method of social control, which for some reason
the Zombies running the System prefer to using the money to provide
housing, education, health services etc.
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Ross Bender
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:32 PM
To: Mike V.
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Violent Penn Students: Save Us, UCD!!!
Karen's argument makes perfect sense. That's why she's a lawyer and
you're not.
Let's start keeping track of the Penn malefactors and see whether
there's a trend or not.
1) Penn law student fires 15 shots into Drexel student's appartment
2) Penn professor arrested for allegedly bludgeoning his wife to death
3) Penn professor arrested for allegedly having sex with underage
boys and videotaping it
4) Wharton student on trial for murder of ex-boyfriend's girlfriend
5) Penn library director arrested for having computer full of kiddy
porn
etc etc etc
The crux of Karen's argument is that UCD propaganda is based on a
fear of dangerous Negroes west of the campus who commit horrific
crimes and make University City unsafe for Penn students. UCD
markets itself as an agency that will make the area cleaner and
safer for the white virginal Penn students so their wealthy mommas
won't be afraid to send their kiddies to this upscale school.
My favorite headline from yesterday's incident "Drexel Students
Escape from Ivy League Gunman".
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Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org
On 2/1/07, Mike V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Karen, your argument... It isn't rational. One incident is not a
trend.
Anecdotes are not evidence. Your argument is, at best, a fatuous
straw
man and at worst, utterly paranoid.
Can you provide any evidence -- anything at all -- that proves that
"UCD
would have been all
over it as yet another example of why we can't live without them
taxing
us"?]
What about any evidence that "UCD has built up the belief that we
would
be overrun by crime, and that only
they can "protect" us from it"?
- Mike V.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KAREN ALLEN
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UC] Violent Penn Students: Save Us, UCD!!!
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UC] Violent Penn Students: Save Us, UCD!!!
>Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:33:14 EST
>
>Sorry, maybe my joke wasn't appropriate, but I don't think I quite
>understand
>your response, Karen.
>
>Melani
I thought I was very clear.
UCD has built up the belief that we would be overrun by crime, and
that
only
they can "protect" us from it. Along with that is the presumption
that
"crime" is something that "others" bring into the neighborhood from
outside.
Your opening statement carried within it the presumption that crime
could
never come from within our presumably elite class of residents: Penn
students. But it did.
Had it been a stranger that committed that crime, UCD would have been
all
over it as yet another example of why we can't live without them
taxing
us.
But because the crime came from the very class that is presumed to
need
UCD
protection, nothing could be said. I recall the e-mail from a few
weeks
ago
where a young man wrote how he was mugged in the 4800 block of
Warrington,
and no one responded when he yelled for help. Correct me if I'm
wrong,
but
I believe it was you who said that if the NID was in place there would
have
been safety ambassadors there to prevent it.
Karen
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