S,
Well, I'm still not sure what you're recommending, but then again I guess
maybe the reason for my questions has not been too clear either. I'm certainly
no expert on this, but I think the underlying problem is how you can control
the editorial content of a newspaper. The government can't be involved in being
the mechanism of control, so far as I understand, because of the constraints in
the First Amendment. So if a non governmental study were done, fine. If a self
imposed code were recommended, fine. But you might want to seek advice from
some journalists first, as I suspect that what you have in mind is so
antithetical to their world outlook and values that you'd be better off trying
to reform police behavior than muzzle an editor.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say"
“could be legislation to prohibit newspapers from endorsing candidates?“
If you take the campaign contribution model, it didn’t end with a ban on
contributions. What I am suggesting will happen is a study and some
modifications on when, and how much. S -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL
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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Well, she was
responding to my question to you. In your response, you referenced reviewing
this like campaign contributions. So are you suggesting that your proposed
remedy could be legislation to prohibit newspapers from endorsing candidates?
If not, what do you have in mind?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" It’s responses
like yours which really make no sense to me. Controlled by the
government? Borat says: “Whaaaaaattt?” Reform is in order and will happen
at some point. S -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Turner,Kathleen
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Sure, that
would be easy. All newspapers and other media outlets would be
controlled 100% by the government. Somehow, I doubt that Mr. Ali
would be very happy with that. Kathleen From: [EMAIL
PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 5/11/2007 9:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Whoa, I
thought the prior responses dealt with all of your questions. Look at it this
way, assuming your argument is not totally for meaningless exchange, how do you
propose to implement your proposed policy, i.e. to ban newspapers from
endorsing candidates, supporting or opposing legislation, criticizing court
decisions, or advocating for public policy? If you are able to articulate a
system to accomplish this that you can live with, let us know, and then there
is something real to talk about.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 11 May 2007 8:00 PM
Subject: RE: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Thanks Wilma:
I hope everyone understands I don’t mean payments ”literally”, like a
fee-sheet. One hand washing the other. Editorial boards should
present commentary, but not endorse. to approve openly <endorse
an idea>; especially : to express support or approval of publicly and
definitely <endorse a mayoral candidate> b : to recommend (as a
product or service) usually for financial compensation <shoes endorsed by
a pro basketball player> I see no one is answering the questions.
S -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilma de Soto
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:48 PM
To: S. Sharrieff Ali; 'Joshua Karstendick'
Cc: UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" It has
ALWAYS been thus, ever since there have been newspapers. No help for it.
The Editorial pages were created for just those issues that concern the
general public; also editorial cartoonist of which I feel Tony Auth is one of
the greatest.
Advertisers do not USUALLY dictate newspaper editorial policy as they do when
they pay for advertising time on TV and Product Placement in pictures. If they
do there is usually a disclaimer in fine print at the end of the advert.
I would know because Alex is in that business.
However, I could be wrong, but THAT was what the newspaper business thrived
upon. The Philadelphia Inquirer is one of the oldest Public Newspapers in the
U.S.
All sorts of companies take out advertisements for all sorts of reasons
including political reasons; however endorsements of the Editorial Board are
not usually bought, but are opinions of same.
On 5/11/07 4:38 PM, "S. Sharrieff Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let mew
say it again.
Newspapers should not endorse candidates.
1. Why should they?
2. Why is it important for a newspaper to use its might against a candidate to
sway voter opinion and turn-out?
3. Are payments made…”Pay-to-Say”?
4. Why is reporting all sides of an issue not enough?
5. How does a newspaper benefit from an endorsement?
6. If a newspaper is going to endorse a candidate, how does a candidate
posture themselves in anticipation?
There where many people who thought it was a better idea to have local
papers not endorse.
In my opinion, there is no separation between editorial and news. The
perception is they are the same. When a paper endorses a candidate, the paper
uses its collective might and does not make the distinction known.
S
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Karstendick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:44 PM
To: S. Sharrieff Ali
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say"
The editorial page is separate from news reporting. Newspapers can and
do both endorse candidates and provide high quality, unbiased news.
There is also a wall of separation between advertisers and the newsroom.
On 5/11/07, S. Sharrieff Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> So if the newspapers are advertising based, then how much do
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