Actually, I would think that the name van Helder points more to Netherlandish ancestry. If German, the name would be "von Helder". Den Helder is a city or town some 40 or so miles north of Amsterdam.

Elliot

On 26 May  2007, at 3:05 PM, Ross Bender wrote:

No, having met you for the first time last night I would have classified you as Mongoloid rather than Caucasian. Touch of the old Genghis Khan DNA there? But perhaps you were adopted by Nazis? I mean, "Van Helder" is a moniker that hints at sound Germanic stock, rather than a hint of the old Mongolian eyefold. Which reminds me of a particularly putrid song at THE GREEN BIRD last night, one about sucking on the Princess's eyelids. I had to go outside and throw up after that one. And revive myself with an ampule. And she's got such loverly eyelids, too -- shame to sully them.


On 5/26/07, Mike V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That's just as well.  I'm hardly the Aryan ideal, am I?

- Mike V.
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From: Ross Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:55 PM
To: Mike V.
Cc: SKnight; [email protected]
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On 5/26/07, Mike V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wait, someone called me a fascist?


Actually they called you a Nazi, but Jeff had to yank the message due to its violation of Godwin's Law.

From: SKnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:21 PM
To: Mike V.; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Tom Fenton on ABC News


For the person who thinks that Mike V is a fascist, this is the humor I
was referring to.  He may be a fascist in your eyes, but in mine
he is witty.
sk
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike V.
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: [UC] Tom Fenton on ABC News


Apparently when "Honest" Al Krigman asks "How are you doing?", he
expects a full report on your health, how much you're paying your
doctor, a listing of potential risk factors and a stool sample.

- Mike V.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Cassidy
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
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so what's dishonest about issuing a statement to the media saying "we're
conducting an investigation"?



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In a message dated 5/24/2007 11:07:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So what would Laserbeam PR do if you'd been hired by UCD to deal
with this?


I can't speak for laserbeam PR. But LOG (Left of Grozny) PR would have
tried honesty and candor.

Always at your service & ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and
all-around crank,




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