Ross,

I repeat, "I prefer attribution".
My further comment was MHO, that said writer might have good reason to
stay quiet and avoid any association with the straw figure, held up for
immolation, by you and others.
What may have been an oversight has been so roundly pounded beyond
recognition, and the writer (possibly a hapless soul) defined as        
vile, sneaky, manipulative and part of some putative clique.

I believe 'strangers' should be invited in, and bona fides revealed in a
natural and organic manner.
Most on this list are neighbors and even potential friends.
"Newbies" should not be grabbed by the digital throat and shaken until
they accept the pigeon hole assigned by the loudest bully.

I'm not calling the post or subsequent silence the bravest or most
honorable or smartest choice.
But I'll note that it is hard to build relationships upon such a rocky
start.
C-7 may be choosing a new E-name as we speak.


Committeeman7 did nothing wrong!
Unfortunately he did nothing right.
But the real harm is being caused by those who are abusing their talents
and our time.

Focusing on C-7's identity is a distraction from the content of the
message and the much bigger issues of 
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
My questions include:
        How do we thank John Fenton?
        Can his job and reputation be saved?
        Should we 
                save his job? 
                lose UCD? 
                settle for what we get (and thus deserve)?
        How do we prevent the further co opting of UC by Politics, Penn
and powerful lurkers?
        Do we support any person or initiative at UCD?
        ?, ?, ?

Ask more, limit responses to facts and goals or clear opinions, not
gossip and speculation.
And stop attacking me.
I am not C-7.
I don't deserve the attacks and I don't like being grumpy or angry at you
and I don't like thinking of you as some overstuffed gnat that needs a
smack-down.  
I'd rather enjoy your civil company, in a friendly environment, where
body language and immediate feedback can provide the clues as to when
either of us has gone to far in a stupid direction.

Best!
Liz



On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:13:24 -0400 "Ross Bender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:



On 6/7/07, Elizabeth F Campion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I prefer attribution, but I understand why someone might not want to
expose themselves to the rampant paranoia, profligate speculation and
general nastiness that began to swirl around the 'offending' post, long
before a beginner might have twigged to list etiquette (or not) or a more
adept sender might have discovered an address oversight.


Many of our senders are known by insider nicknames.
Some of us include to much in our signatures, others too little, some
assume the E-address says it all.

 
Liz, I fail to understand why you're putting so much energy into
defending the practice of anonymous posting, which even the most hopeless
newbie realizes is a vile and scummy practice. There is absolutely no
excuse for sending messages under false names to a public email list. In
fact, it is technically illegal, although I can't cite the statute at the
moment. WTF is wrong with you today??? 



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Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org/mqrtoc.html

Ph.D. in Love, Columbia University
D.Hon. Bob Jones University
Certificate in Cognitive Science, Institute of Glottopsychiatry,
University of Waterloo 
Chevalier, Legion d'Honneur
Lt., (Ret.) Queen's African Rifles
Voted Most Likely to Succeed, Goshen High School, 1967




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