I don't understand all the rules regarding the establishment of these type  
entities, but I see it working as follows:
 
1)  we take the structure of the NID and the Community usurps it.....  
meaning that we have the same "taxing authority" that the NID would have  had.  
Just 
the community runs it instead of it being run by the UCD.
 
2)  we convince the large current donors of the UCD that it is in  THEIR 
interest to assist this new community based organization to exist and  flourish 
with UCD's financial and administrative assistance (if they say "no"  then we 
are in the same position--Mexican stand-off with no NID or BID or  CID.... the 
alternative for the larger donors is NOT that they can pass a NID  that they 
control).
 
We would "rent" their ambassadors and cleaning equipment.  They could  do our 
books for us.  All we really need is to raise the cost of  reimbuirsing for 
the ambassadors and a person to manage them (John  Fenton).  UCD could lend us 
office space and/or other equipment (faxes,  phones etc) which they have 
already.  
 
I agree with Melani that a totally voluntary organization would probably  die 
on the vine.  Times are very different than in 1989 here in UC, but  people 
are people and need to be required to do things .... even if they are in  their 
own best self-interest.



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