"But sometimes I'm dumb like that"

Pmuye,

You don't mind if I call you, Pmuye, for short?  It's your buddy here and I 
don't want you to be so hard on yourself.

You cheeky devil, you aren't trying to be a wanker are you?

Yes, I know how to get in touch with the current gang over at SHCA.  They claim 
to represent the neighborhood in which I live and I'm frightenend by them.  I 
think the Prez is still the former FOCP Prez I know.  

But my question and request for help is by no means limited to the current 
gang.  I think more of the exciting elections and discussions about the 3 
choices sent to UCD probably happened several years ago, 2003, 2002,etc.  You 
may have missed the fact that UCD chose the same "community representative" for 
SHCA for several years.

I would be especially interested in stories from people who refuse to give any 
more money to SHCA.  Like me, there might be others out there furious that they 
didn't hear about this "3 choice" paradigm for the anointing of the local lord. 
 Just my opinion, but had the SHCA leaders chosen to take an honorable path 
when UCD started the occupation, there would have been a front page news story 
about this return of feudalism?  

There might be folks out there reading who have SHCA stories to share.  Now 
that some list wankers seem to have retreated a bit with their ganging up, I 
hope decent folks feel empowered to tell their stories.  If they do and the 
wankers start wanking, I hope you'll join me and come to the defense of posters 
sharing their honest experiences. 

I am especially interested in anyone who has a similar finding to that I have 
with FOCP.  If they say:

 "I tried with those _________ at SHCA for a long time.  I would not give that 
group one penny and here is why..."

I hope you better understand this public request for information, Pmuye.

Your buddy,

Nnelg



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:39 PM
  Subject: Fwd: [UC] Question for SHCA Board


  Glenn,
      If you really 1) want to get a response from the supposed addressee and 
2) really want the information, may I make a little suggestion or two?  First, 
SHCA is pretty easy to find on the internet.  If you're (not your) not familiar 
with search engines or Google, here's a link that you can use to start your 
(not you're) excellent investigation:  http://www.sprucehillca.org/  You won't 
believe it, but you'll actually find things like newsletters, minutes and the 
date, time and place of the next meeting.  They even have their by-laws posted 
although not, apparently, all of their policies, protocols and MO's.
      Second, and no less important for the good communication I know you 
strive for, they have an official organizational e-mail address.  So you could 
actually send the request to the org rather than this list serve.  It reminds 
me of how one can publish a notice in the newspaper of a lawsuit when you have 
trouble actually giving a copy to the defendant.  I always wonder who in the 
heck reads legal notices and what the odds are that the right person would see 
the notice of the suit.  But sometimes I'm dumb like that.  Oh, and a bonus: 
there is a list of the board officers and members.  Some are on the list and 
you could write to them directly as well.
      Good luck on your quest.  Enjoy your research.  And remember what 
Chairman Mao said.

  Paul





  -----Original Message-----
  From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:33 am
  Subject: [UC] Question for SHCA Board


  Dear SHCA Board members,
  It has come to the attention of the citizens of West Philadelphia that civic 
association boards were required to give the names of three of their 
association board members in order to be given a "representative" on the UCD 
Board. I’ve noticed that your, Barry Grossbach, has been chosen by UCD since 
the beginning and he has been listed as a "community representative" for years.
  Could someone give me the names of the other two SHCA candidates in the 
years, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, and 1999? I’m sure that 
these names were reported in the newsletter to members. So if anyone could give 
me the links to these newsletter reports, that would be sufficient. Did the 
board have an election to choose the three names or was there a different 
process?  Did UCD interview each candidate to assess compliance?
  Also could someone explain why the Spruce Hill Civic Association 
representative is called a "community representative" on the UCD web site?  I 
honestly think someone from the association needs to send a letter to UCD 
explaining that this, "community representative" is a very inappropriate title 
and have it removed.  
  UCD is making your association look very bad.  There is a new term for the 
phenomenon, astroturfing, and it is a claim to fake grass roots support.
  Thanks for the help,
  Glenn Moyer
  PS: I noticed that the Squirrel Hill Civic Association does not have a UCD 
Board member. I’d like to publicly thank you and express my admiration of your 
association for not selling out the citizens of your area.

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