My experience with the place that used to be there is that they were rarely open when I went there with my toddler looking for a treat.

It seems hard to imagine that someone could turn $500K in water ice during the summer at that location, but I do think there's still plenty of opportunity for someone to provide a destination for people, whether it's flavored water (coffee and tea) or flavored ice.

We seem willing to pay...if the destination is well-conceived and well-run.

Regards,
Mark Bowerman

From: John Ellingsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [UC] Baltimore Ave shops
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:48:01 -0400

Sorry I don't have the answer to your question about Joe's; I myself noticed that it looked like Joe's had completely shut down as I biked by recently. The owners were really nice and I patronized them when I lived closer ...

I think it an interesting contrast, the mention of Rita's water ice opening on B Ave. I remember visiting the water ice/coffee shop that was on the 4600 block in the summer of '04; it suddenly shut down, no one seemed to notice ... now a chain might be moving in.

Do you have any more info on this potential move-in of Rita's?

It is timely; there was an article in the Sunday paper about how an out-of-towner is doing so well marketing Philly water ice along the East Coast:

Rita's CEO has lofty dreams for water ice
Rudolph wants 1,500 stores, each earning $500,000 a season.
http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20070610_Lofty_dreams_for_water_ice.html

For what it's worth, I find it amazing that anyone would pay so much for flavored ice . . .

Regards,

John Ellingsworth

Mark Bowerman wrote:
All,

Perhaps this is old news, but I'm not always so observant:

Does anyone know whether Joe's, the grocery store on the 4500 block of Baltimore, is closed, at least temporarily? We don't patronize often but when we do need one or two ingredients, it was the closest, half-way reliable source. Things looked a bit disassembled in there on Sunday evening...

Also, there was talk of a Rita's Water Ice going into one of the stores on the 4600 block. Does anyone know the latest on that?

Thanks,
Mark Bowerman


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