In a message dated 6/26/07 2:07:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Melani,
> 
>      Why does the UCD, its staff and steering committee, want to have two 
> separate legal entities? What would the scope of control be in such a 
> scenario? 
> I'm assuming both non-profit orgs would each have their own separate funds. 
> Would the local landowners paying into the BID/NID no longer have any say in 
> how UCD is run, even if they have a say on how the BID/NID is run? Why would 
> the neighborhood want two non-profit entities when only one seems to be 
> required here? What is the reasoning for this increase in bureaucracy? At 
> what 
> point was this dual entity solution explicitly put forward. Every meeting 
> I've 
> gone to in the past two years and the discussion by Mr. Huston mentioned 
> nothing about there being two non-profits, one the BID/NID and one the 
> current 
> UCD.
> 
> Mario Giorno
> 
Hi, Mario, I'm sure everybody's getting tired of my posts this afternoon, and 
Al is probably going to threaten again to sue me, so I'll try to be brief.   
And remember that I am not an official or even unofficial spokesperson for the 
UCD or the BID.   I'm sorry that the BID meetings weren't more informative, 
but would you agree that there were a number of folks at the meetings who 
wanted to create an uproar rather than getting down to working out the details?

You ask a very good question. The UCD was founded before the PA "enabling 
legislation" allowed a BID to be funded by landlords, so that's why the 
organization didn't start out as a BID.   Maybe someday the two would be able, 
if the 
BID were to be approved, to streamline into one organization.   But right now 
the UDC exists and the BID remains uncertain, given the very vocal opposition, 
so I don't think anyone considered CLOSING the UCD and REPLACING it.   Plus, 
the landlords who have provided feedback and the community reps who have chimed 
in have stated that they don't want marketing and some other components.   
So, the BID as proposed currently would concentrate on clean and safe and stay 
out of the services that its funders don't want.   But others involved with the 
UCD do want those services, so if there are two organizations working 
together, the people who want the other services (the institutions) can pay the 
UCD 
for those AND for their share of clean and safe, and the BID funders can pay 
only for the limited services they want.   I'm not sure the landlords want to 
pay for park improvements, etc., but to others, those are the things we 
wouldn't 
want to do without. 

The BID proposal didn't change the makeup of the UCD board, so where there 
are currently landlords and community representatives on the UCD board, they 
would still be there.   It proposed a BID advisory board of landlords and 
business owners, most recently written to have several each in the categories 
of 
larger, midsized and smaller entities.   As I mentioned before, suggestions and 
changes have been heard, considered, and incorporated into the proposal as much 
as possible under BID law.

Unfortunately the BID law does not allow some of the suggestions folks have 
made, and some folks seem disinclined to believe that; instead, they just fault 
the UCD for not doing things THEIR way.   There are a lot of issues, wants & 
needs to be considered - including the law!   

Your point is helpful - if you weren't aware of this, others probably weren't 
either, and we won't be able to get anywhere till we all understand the 
ground rules.   Thanks,

Melani




Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban & Bye, Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone 215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax 215-222-1101


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