August 3rd, 11:08 a.m.
"There was 1 incident. IT WAS AN ABANDONED CAR!!!!!!! [...] Take care everyone, I hope no one was frightened about the report of these 2 armed black men.Very upset at this point, Glenn Moyer

PS: Sharrieff, if you or anyone from the safety committee wish to accompany me to the 18th district, please get in touch asap."

Half an hour later:
"I will not again forward information for you to share with the civil censored Penn list. For your own sake, I suggest that you get away from them. Please inform them that from current reports, the earlier report of armed black men committing car jackings is false If some young black kid runs in fear from the police because frightened neighbors respond with increased fear, I would feel terrible if I didn't make the best effort to inform even barking cheese."

Four hours after that:
"I can now confirm that Mr. Tony West’s report of a car jacking at 44th and Larchwood never happened.. [...] Mr. Tony West has manufactured a false crime report. He falsely claimed that there are 2 black male car jackers at large, and one of them is willing to brandish a gun. He falsely accused the police of serious mishandling of this manufactured crime. He intentionally tried to frighten many of our neighbors. And he risked serious side effects even catastrophe had he been taken seriously. If I were any African American or black person in this neighborhood, I would be outraged. I’m outraged anyway!"

5 p.m. that same day:
"I'm being "childish" for exposing this terrible lie and bringing relief to anyone who believed it? The cheeshead could not possibly be such a poor reader, could he? If he has any evidnce that a car jacking happened at West's, why doesn't cheesehead post it instead of barfing at me and continuing to bark on this list? [...] If you send any more of this "civil" crap to me, I will identify you. Go back to your bullshit barking cheese list."

5:24 p.m.:
"Go back to barfing civil cheese, Joe."

That evening:

"You know Stern, I'm getting tired of being civil when someone posts crap like this. I described exactly how I discovered that the car jacking did not occur. If the police made some crazy mistake, I would be held blameless for the way I reported what happened. Hey when that happens, I'll admit any mistake I would have made. [...] You accuse me of seeking to defame West. [...] You readily attack my character yet you were too damn stupid to even call the district and the officer I clearly identified! What if it turns out that I was doing an important community service by looking into this lie while dealing with mean stupid posts like yours."

Two days later:

"I received the e-mail copied below yesterday morning. It claims to be brother of the victim and asserts that the earlier report of a 44th and Larchwood, August 1, car jacking was in fact true. I responded to the strange e-mail immediately but have gotten no reply.[...] It’s a little freaky that there is some unidentified sneaky member of this list or the censored, private, University of Pennsylvania listserv with lots of information and connections to this alleged serious incident, but who will not come forward to confirm it. [...] All of this stuff is too much and scary. I’ll have to go to police headquarters tomorrow morning as this gets deeper. I don’t have the time for this but this is getting too scary. I'll be sure to give a report to the list. If this sneaky list member with information about this affair (who allegedly forwarded my post to this writer) could come forward, the community might be able to get the truth! One way or the other, this is a serious matter for all of us! This is either about serious unsolved crime right here and unacceptable police incompetence or a serious coordinated internet campaign to lie and spread fear that is centered right here. What is the truth?"

That Evening:

"I went to the 18th district Friday morning. The police officer was able to tell me that there was an incident at 44th and Larchwood that night, an abandoned vehicle removed. No carjacking. When I returned in the afternoon to show the community affairs officer, Officer Davis, the list reports; I asked him if there is any possibility that a record could be delayed from them. He told me NO CHANCE and told me explicitly that I could PUBLICLY inform the list that this report was completely FALSE. It didn’t happen. [...] Does any one else understand that either way there is a serious problem with all of this? Complete mishandling right down to losing/hiding the report of an armed robbery is what we are talking about. Otherwise, the police have told me twice that this report is false and we have a rather serious hoax. Tomorrow, I’m going to police headquarters with the new account I received to get to the bottom of this. As always, I will report what I find out. [...] When the truth comes out, how are the rest of the folks concerned about civility on the list going to respond to these individuals?????? Even at this point as I try to find the truth, the posts from those jackals should be widely condemned because of spewing crap at me without a basic attempt to verify what I have discovered. Shame on barking cheese! Shame on the free pass for the civil folks!"

This Morning:

"I want to leave you some info before heading to police headquarters and press room.[...] I've known that a gang here in "little Mantua" has been attempting to instill fear in residents to support centralizing power and a gentrification through plutocracy agenda. This is the case whether this incident occurred or did not. Remember, the whores and gangs of little Mantua's Clark Park "

And finally....

"It appears we do have a police problem. [,,,] There was some type of car robbery incident on the 500 block of 44th, although details of the 2 accounts are disputed. I wasn’t given the details. I explained how this misinformation has now placed me in the position of passing their misinformation publicly while looking for the truth. As I said before when the second account arrived, one way or the other we have a serious problem. [...] He apologized for the incorrect information I was given and had no explanation. I asked them to follow up and explain to me how they could give me incorrect information. And how I could be told that it was OK to expose it publicly as a false report. I'm going to also contact the police press room so that they can address this problem. I regret the period of misinformation in which I was involved, but did give you the reports exactly as I received them. Now, I will return to the main headquarters and file a complaint with the police. I feel we all need some answers."

SUMMARY:
Stage 1: Glenn accuses Tony West of making up stories of black men preying upon residents.
Stage 2: Glenn yells insults at his critics.
Stage 3: Glenn, faced with the possibility that he ran with a conclusion that may not be true, compensates by reporting on how the Philly Police stonewalled his questions. he also makes sure to note that he should be held "blameless." Stage 4; Glenn, faced with the fact that the carjacking did occur, and that he went out of his way to accuse Tony West of spreading racist rumors for some ees-vil purpose, shifts the blame to the "problem" with the police.




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