> The fact that they even considered it makes me very
> apprehensive, and makes me question whether they are
> truly committed to the idea of historic
> preservation. When Tom Lussenhop brought this
> proposal to them, their reaction should have been to
> reject it out of hand.  Lussenhop wanted something
> that would destroy the character of the community
> forever; what would there be to discuss?  "Hell, no!
> That goes against all that we stand for!" 
>  

Wow!  My mistake.  I went back to the report.  I knew
that Lussenhop tried to get the historical part
demolished and he was turned down, July 13.

But not until the last paragraph of the article was a
confirmation that SHCA leaders knew about this in
advance.  I think I stopped reading at the end of the
first page because I expected such a loud public,
"hell no" from SHCA that I didn't realize how far
advanced this had moved.  It was obvious that
Lussenhop and Penn have been at this plan for a long
time.  But I really thought SHCA must have been kept
completely in the dark too.

I've made no secret of my view about these civic
association leaders saying "the community this and the
community that."  And how outrageous it is to take on
these projects secretly with Penn and UCD.  This hotel
goes against everything this club has claimed as the
SHCA ideology.  To be dealing secretly with Penn
without informing this entire community would be
incredible.  

 
Did I completely miss a huge public information
campaign?  

Was there any announcement by SHCA to the community in
the Review or posters about this horrible plan
generally or about the july 13th decision by the
historical commission?????  I didn't learn about this
until the October 10th report in our local paper.

Thanks in advance for any other peices of the puzzle,

Glenn  











--- KAREN ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 05:48:18 -0700> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [UC] Stop the hotel
> and SHCA> I share the concerns about the vision for
> a hotel at> 40th and Pine. ...
> > > Some years ago The Spruce Hill Civic Association
> tried> to push an historic designation over this>
> neighborhood. Of course, this would have had>
> disastrous effects upon our most vulnerable
> neighbors> with almost no benefit. But preserving
> the historical> character was being asserted
> whatever the human costs.> > Glenn Moyer 
> What I don't understand in this is why Spruce Hill
> is considering this proposal at all, given the fact
> that it flies in the face of everything they claimed
> to have stood for in fighting for historic
> designation.  Historic designation would have
> prevented this very thing of a hideous, out of
> scale, out of character building slapped up wherever
> some connected hotshot developer could squeeze it.  
>  
> The fact that they even considered it makes me very
> apprehensive, and makes me question whether they are
> truly committed to the idea of historic
> preservation. When Tom Lussenhop brought this
> proposal to them, their reaction should have been to
> reject it out of hand.  Lussenhop wanted something
> that would destroy the character of the community
> forever; what would there be to discuss?  "Hell, no!
> That goes against all that we stand for!" 
>  
> So my questions are these: is "historical character"
> only an issue that is raised when little people want
> to make relatively little changes to individual
> properties? Or is historical character (and our
> neighborhood) to be thrown out like yesterday's
> newspaper when the front men for big instititutions
> want to make devestating changes to the entire
> neighborhood?    


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