Glenn and Tony, Please stop imagining my (anyone's) hurt feelings, or talking for me-others, to fuel this nonsense feud.
To save your guess work, my positions are shown below. I want the park maintained and improved. Many "Friends" and many unaffiliated volunteers help do that. Those who do good work, with or without personal agenda, have my thanks. In the matters of removing litter, action not intention, gets my attention. My gratitude extends to those I know do the work, and those who do it without seeking credit or attention. In my travels through life and our neighborhood, I am often awed by the numbers and names of people doing good work. There are more people contributing, and often many who are unexpected or not credited. I have enjoyed many happy surprises in discovering some of the people who improve our quality of life and this neighborhood. I do not want to see to many permanent alterations. I was opposed to the Basketball court expansion. I remain opposed to many printed proposals including: Moving Nell Moving the Memorial Stone Adding a Dog Park Adding a Storage Shed for the "Farmers" of the weekly market. Removing healthy trees I am okay with the using the Park as a Playground for our youngest children. This was, after all, Clark's stated goal. And it fits with my beliefs and desires. But I don't think it should be reduced to a Recreation Center. I like it as an Urban Oasis. I like it as a place to find quiet and solitude, and as a place to bond friendships and families, and to walk dogs (on leashes and with poo-bags). I don't want Clark Park overused or abused. I do want to see better, and more diverse uses of our existing Rec Centers. No one can "humiliate" me but myself. I don't cede that power to Tony or Glenn or to any Community Organization. I manage quite well on my own. I don't mind occasional self congratulations. I believe that many Volunteers need a sincere invitation some recognition and thanks a sense that they are not "Chumps" but part of a surprisingly large volunteer force. I choose to say some of what I do to encourage others to speak up or join in. I do not let the dismissals of people who call me vain or attention seeking bother me. I am healed and encouraged by those who are moved to work beside me or who let me know, often off-list, that they have contributes in some other way. I also believe that there is value in Anonymous donations. Sometimes it lets us imagine who "Anonymous" is and lets us think well of people in general. It also lets "Anonymous" choose contacts, instead of being added to the list of those who are called upon to do, or contribute to, everything. I like Tony and his writing style. I value many of Glenn's writings. I read both with some skepticism. I don't believe Tony has or wants the "representative" power that Glenn assigns him. I also don't believe that FoCP is any where near as inclusive as Tony claims. Further, trying to exclude me is like trying to sweep water up hill. I am not afraid to tackle problem spots or people. I don't have the time to make any consistent, organized commitment to the Park, but I pick up litter on my walks through the park, and I jump in, vigorously, if I see a need and fell able to make a contribution of words or money. And I try to honor the other commitments that I make. I encourage all to pursue volunteering in the areas that hold interest for them. In this way, our community will be better served an with better spirit. All the best in 2008 and beyond. Liz On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:42:12 -0500 "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Folks, this is an important local issue. These local groups like FOCP and SHCA pretend that they are a stand in for a non existant village government. The list just saw West flex his power with a warning to Liz about the catch-22 she may find herself in. If I told someone to "have a wonderful trip over the river on the Pine St. bridge ," all of you would know my meaning. Of course, I could convince a stranger that I was trying to be sweet. How does one work with an FOCP "representative" other than West? West is the one who decides whom may participate in discussions with the FOCP and whom may not. He has made that perfectly clear on numerous occasions on this list and in person. Lot's of former board members from these groups have told me stories that were the same as my experiences. If someone is disagreeing with the inner circle in these groups, they are essentially punished, excluded and there is an organized attempt to humiliate them. The only way to interact with the organization is to kiss up to their leaders. But this hurts the whole community. When I tried to propose the Clark park farmer's market to the community via a spot on the FOCP agenda, I tried the accepted process. I approached the President face to face and politely asked for an opportunity. He told me that "the community was opposed." There was no public meeting and no agenda spot. This was my first experience with the organization and I saw how incredibly destructive these associations have been to this community. The only reason there is a farmer's market at Clark park was because UCD decided that it was good for gentrification. The community was deprived the opportunity to hear from a community volunteer bringing a proposal to them at a public meeting. The good folks starting the farmers' markets wanted these as a benefit to the community and farmers, not for support of the Penn "brand." How many times has this type of abuse of power occured and been cloaked? How many of our neighbors have similar stories? Isn't it a bit ironic that the most destructive organizations in this neighborhood were then chosen by our partners Penn to speak for the community, to rubber stamp the Penn agenda? The pretense that outside groups are allowed to send "representatives" to these civic associations is such an "in your face lie" that I really wanted to explain how these groups work for those of you fortunate enough to have never been bullied by them. FOCP leaders are cutting secret deals about control of our park. Ask the basketball players, if they were part of the decision to rip up their court and let it lay in ruins until their basketball groups GO AWAY. Ask the volleyball players if they were invited to send a representative of THEIR CHOOSING to the park A redesign planning committee. Then you will know the contempt in these self congratulatory claims of inclusiveness spewing out from the leaders in these organizations! Thanks for considering this problem, Glenn