Re: [UC] The fourth grade slumpWe agree on a great deal.  Your observations 
from first hand experience are the same as I've heard from other primary 
teachers.

I've worked with a lot of parents from earlier generations from the HS dropout 
group.  So I've seen how the problems can repeat.  I've also seen individuals 
functioning very poorly turn around and do an excellent job with their 
children.  Addressing the barriers to addiction treatment, adult literacy, and 
good employment programs for the parents (who beg for these) is an extremely 
valuable and cost effective intervention to help the kids.

The home life is extremely important but other mentors can also fill some of 
the gaps, do fill the gaps in all economic classes, and can make huge 
differences in a kids life.  One group of people that often don't get credit 
for their important role are the homeroom teachers like you.  But teachers in 
overcrowded classrooms can't possibly make up the difference for the large 
number of poor kids in overcrowded classrooms.

Poor kids often can't get involved with youth soccer programs, boy scouts, 
music lessons, etc. because the "small fees" might not be available.  It's not 
funny when people make fun of adolescents when they choose to buy a pair of 
sneakers with all their money to be like the other kids.

The isolation and path towards gangs and substance abuse could be altered if 
kids had access to other adult mentors doing things with them.  It's not just 
that certain subsets of kids are impacted by connecting to activities like 
music, chess clubs, sports, Clark Park festivals, etc. but the adults offer 
another bonding/mentoring experience that in itself might be the difference in 
an individual childs life.  When I speak of support for public school teachers, 
I see these adults and activities as indirect support of the teachers work.

So while I agree that home life is important, we as a society can do a lot that 
we are not doing to offer a change in the new generation.  Many of the poor 
parents are working long hours with no sick time, benefits, etc.  Their kids 
end up disadvanged just like the other poor kids.  

If people remember that it is not a lack of love from the parents that cause 
them to fall short of expectations or better outcomes, our society might 
recognize the policy failures.  (Note: Money and resources wasted on fraud and 
incompetency, in the name of after school programs etc., does not mean that the 
need is not there) 

I think it's important not to give up on the kids or place too much "blame" on 
the parents.  It's not that simple and it distracts and misleads causing us to 
forget about real problems and solutions.  It's like dumping blame on teachers 
has distracted people that consume too much corporate media.

The dropout report about the urban/suburban gap is incredibly strong support 
that funding is one of the central problems. 

Thanks for the discussion,
Glenn
    
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wilma de Soto 
  To: Glenn ; UnivCity listserv 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [UC] The fourth grade slump


  I agree somewhat.

  From my perspective, I see kids who come to school after their first four or 
five years sitting in front of a TV or PlayStation.  There is very little to 
build on when they arrive at school because their best learning years are 
already behind them.

  We begin by teaching them what they already should have known before they 
ever came to school.  Kindergarten, first and second grade texts have lots of 
pictures, there's coloring to do etc.  These kids are already behind when they 
started.  Under normal circumstances at the end of second grade, one can begin 
the transition for third grade.  However, these kids are barely second grade 
material.

  Then, POW! third grade.  Texts have lots more words than pictures.  It's a 
different level of interaction with assignments, more reading, more writing, 
higher-order thinking skills and the like.  They fall further behind.  They 
cannot make the transition there let alone the transition to Middle School 
style work of High School.

  It really starts at home because their best learning years are before the age 
of five.  One has to have something to build on.  They have to know something 
before they can be taught something else.


  On 4/3/08 8:43 PM, "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


    Newberg comments on the fourth grade slump:

    "Others have shown that early school achievement is a strong predictor of 
high school completion (Stroup and Robims 1972). We were also interested in 
reaching students before the "fourth grade slump," the sudden drop-off between 
third and fourth grade in the reading scores of low-income students (Chall et 
al. 1990). Recognizing the need to intervene earlier in the lives of the 
children chosen to participate in the SYTE program, subsequent classes of SYTE 
have been identified as early as kindergarten. The new model recognizes that 
establishing a connection with children early allows the program the best 
opportunity to capitalize on their strengths and requires less remediation of 
neglected problems (Bogaines 1993)."

    Newberg, Norman A 2006. The Gift of Education.  How a Tuition Gaurantee 
Program Changed the Lives of Inner City Youth. The State University of New York 
Press, Albany: 192

     

    In this week's UC Review, University High School to Close in 2010 for Two 
Year Renovation, consider this vague mention (the only printed mention to date):

    "Penn and Drexel have said they would work with the feeder middle schools 
to better prepare those children for the more advanced academic opportunities 
in their neighborhood school."

     

    Neighbors, if the Penn/Drexel school were being designed by real Penn 
experts from the school of education, they absolutely would know that they 
must, first and foremost, provide details about preparing the local kids! The 
effects of poverty are measurable much earlier than middle school regardless of 
funded or under-funded schools!!!  

    How do years of underfunded schools and barriers to quality extra 
curricular activities compound the problems that start early?  Wilma pointed 
out that lots of us don't understand the range of issues or problems teachers 
do their best (and often a heroic job) to deal with daily.  Properly funded 
schools (and fewer students with other problems associated with poverty) have 
more supporting factors.  The big problems like large class size are sometimes 
recognized. Teacher turnover, low pay, low support of staff, and the resulting 
poor morale can all be addressed with proper funding.

     If Penn/Drexel start real quality interventions now, it would take years 
before the gaps caused by decades of neglect would prepare neighborhood kids, 
in any significant way, for any of the magnet high schools.

    But, the new UC high school is obviously following the history of mapping 
and planning our neighborhood for Penn's real estate goals.  The people of 
Phila. simply pay.

    The most important details, the oblique plan for assisting the "feeder 
schools," doesn't even make sense on the surface. The need for much earlier 
intervention is so obvious and established that the only possible conclusion is 
that the neighborhood is being deceived.

    Penn and Drexel have no intention of making a real effort to reach the kids 
and families they are attempting to deceive. If I am wrong and "the experts" 
are sincere, they are so out of touch with the literature that they are 
incompetent. They would have made a bold and prominent presentation of the 
"assistance" long before selling the magnet school as a replacement.  They are 
deceiving us and attempting to transfer resources (the building and funds) from 
our already under-funded public system for the purpose of attracting 
replacement residents and condo buyers!

    Sincerely,

    Glenn

     

     






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