OH, you mean UCD bike "ambassadors" and the Penn and USP golf carts (I
saw one driving by the tot lot in Clark Park on Friday)
Jim

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:59 AM, John Ellingsworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A violator is a violator.  The most egregious violators are cyclists &
> drivers who ride on the sidewalks.
>
> John
>
> KAREN ALLEN wrote:
>>
>> Hi, John, I hope by "violators" you include those cyclists who ignore
>> the rules of the road and run stop signs and red lights and end up
>> riding into the path of auto traffic, or  ride against the flow of
>> traffic where drivers are not expecting anyone to come from
>> (especially dangerous to the cyclist if the driver is making a turn).
>>
>>
>> If I drove my car the way some individuals ride bikes, my driver's
>> license would be revoked. Karen
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:37:10 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [UC]
>>> University City traffic nightmares> > If you ride a bike or are a
>>> walker in University City, you might find > these changes welcome;
>>> at least I do. Increased traffic enforcement > against violators is
>>> certainly something that would benefit us all.> > I do often find
>>> myself wondering if it was truly an engineer who came up > with
>>> many of these traffic light systems; certainly, the lights can be >
>>> timed to expedite the flow of vehicular traffic through these >
>>> intersections and still afford cyclists and pedestrians safe and >
>>> accessible thoroughfare.> > Just my .02 cents...> > Regards,> >
>>> John> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > Friends and Neighbors:> > > > The
>>> following was in today's DN.> > > > It's been suggested that lots
>>> of us have items we might add to the list (the > > horrible left
>>> turn going north from University Ave/38th St onto > >
>>> Chester/Baltimore, coupled with the timing of the lights to
>>> actually get onto Chester or > > Baltimore at 39th Street comes
>>> immediately to mind).> > > > > > > > Al Krigman> > > > > > > >
>>> reminding you that you read it first, here, on the popu-list > > >
>>> > > > ____________________________________> > > >
>>> ____________________________________> > > > Letters: My University
>>> City traffic nightmares > > Philadelphia Daily News (9/29/08)> > >
>>> > IWORK at 37th and Walnut. If there is a hell for drivers, it must
>>> be > > University City with the constant construction, vast number
>>> of pedestrians, trucks, > > taxis, buses and double-parking. > >
>>> Now, it seems, the city is on a mission to make things worse by
>>> adding more > > traffic lights, stop signs and no-turn-on-red
>>> signs. > > Some specific nightmare spots: > > 31st and Spring
>>> Garden. About a year ago, the city put up a no-turn-on-red > >
>>> sign. The effect: long lines of idling cars on 31st Street burning
>>> up $3.75 a > > gallon gasoline. > > Spring Garden Bridge at the Art
>>> Museum. A new light went up last month. > > Result? More cars
>>> backed up on the bridge. Everything seemed to move well before > >
>>> the light. > > 34th at Lancaster, at the 7-Eleven. Another new
>>> light. Trucks continue to > > block the right lane as they unload
>>> their deliveries to the store. With the new > > light, there is
>>> effectively only one open lane at the light. Traffic backs > > way
>>> up 34th. > > And let's not forget all the bike lanes our last mayor
>>> was so fond of, > > turning four-lane roads into two lanes. Again,
>>> lots of idling, polluting cars. > > When is the city going to do
>>> something to improve traffic flow in University > > City? > >
>>> Donald Kaufmann, Philadelphia > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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