>What I do when I want to learn something, and I don't get it over the >web, is I then call the person on the telephone and ask them questions, >if I care enough. >
Neighbors, I worked with some people from GSE when I was doing adult literacy work. I thought highly of them. I couldn't understand how GSE professionals could be involved with this "national policy" model (from the DP). Wouldn't they be ashamed of promoting a PR, spin, bullshit, whatever, web site when they are at the center of a serious issue in a city of 1.5 million? I decided to figure out what degree programs were involved and look at the curriculum, publications, etc. Low and behold, the Project for civic engagement jumps out of nowhere! There is no program that it appears to fit into at GSE. The GSE, like I always assumed, has serious programs in many areas around the field of education. Didn't it seem very odd that a serious university program would have its core concepts missing from such a serious project? If the Praxis outfit deviated seriously from a serious program, people could read the core concepts and compare them to the Praxis performance. But hey, no program, no literature, no core concepts; no way to evaluate it, and tell the difference between a serious academic discipline and a workshop in pool hustling! When you read that stuff on the "project" site that awes Tony, the UCD guy; it's clear that these Praxis clowns aren't as sharp as they are sneaky. This is deep, but not funny as Mr. West believes. Glenn -----Original Message----- >From: Anthony West <[email protected]> >Sent: Jan 28, 2009 9:44 PM >To: UnivCity Listserv <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [UC] Libraries and tactics that are doomed to failure > >Pretty funny, Glenn! > >Now can you direct us to your company website, please? How well-kept is >it? How self-revealing is it? > >What I do when I want to learn something, and I don't get it over the >web, is I then call the person on the telephone and ask them questions, >if I care enough. > >-- Tony West > > >> “A Penn >> entity makes just as much sense to the average Joe as anybody else's >> entity, to organize large-scale, productive meetings.” >> >> >> Tony, these people on the un-moderated list sure know how to fling it. You >> were so ivy league to point to these deep core concepts published >> transparently by the Penn intellectuals on their web site. How could anyone >> doubt this brilliant civic engagement literature: >> >> >> Metaphors of community >> >> >> http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/coreconcepts.php#metaphorsofcommunity#metaphorsofcommunity >> >> >> Metaphors of engagement >> >> http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/coreconcepts.php#metaphorsofengagement#metaphorsofengagement >> >> >> Key concepts for engaging people >> >> http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/coreconcepts.php#keyfactors#keyfactors >> >> Naming and framing problems >> >> http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/coreconcepts.php#namingandframingproblems#namingandframingproblems >> >> Civic deliberation and civic capacity >> >> http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/coreconcepts.php#civicdeliberation#civicdeliberation >> >> > > >---- >You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the >list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see ><http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
