Thank you Tony. As for name-calling, I advise you of the existence of written records of 501c3 UC Community organizations and implore you to read them yourself.
I should rather you state what is is you have learned, (not just read or heard), from arguments on this listserv with regard to UC community groups, and if you are actually able to correlate with regard to the current Campus Inn situation. A simple recall and one-to-one correspondence is enough. On 2/12/09 7:52 PM, "Anthony West" <[email protected]> wrote: > Wilma, > > I always answer every question that is addressed me. It's a courtesy > fundamental to honest discussion. Like your own discussion habits, which > are admirable and which I too try to follow, hopefully as well as you > someday. > > 1) I have learned many things and indeed just posted a request for more > information. Since I never post a request for more rhetoric, or for more > misfits, assume I respect your history. > > 2) I really read it and honestly considered it. Your experiences sound > valid. Other people's experiences may sound equally valid, yet be > different. That's why I'd like to hear more voices, without prejudging > anybody's perspectives. > > 3) Between the CPN/Firehouse contretemps of 1988 and the SHCA/Campus Inn > contretemps of 2008, there are some obvious parallels, but maybe a few > more obvious differences. Both are true. > > 4) I have no idea what positions I agree or disagree with. I don't deny > any scenarios at this time, now you've kindly given us a lucid account > of yours. Your material can be fact-checked by the entire community, > thanks. But remember: name-calling makes fact-checking harder, not > easier, for the community. > > 5) Yes, hurt feelings! I see this constantly in the group I work with > and it always pains me, so I know they have stung many other decent, > goodhearted neighbors. It has nothing to do with your ideology or your > faction; it mostly has to do with small-group dynamics. > > 6) Not at all. Readers just need referrals to them, thanks. > > -- Tony West > > >> MY questions to one as erudite as you are: >> >> Have you EVER learned ANYTHING from this ³fascinating history², or >> just continue to blow it off as rhetoric of misfits? >> Have you EVER really read it and honestly considered it or have you >> just invalidated the experiences of those who were affected? >> Are you truly able to make the mental cognitive synapse connections >> between what we and others have written about this ³fascinating >> history² and note the similarities to the present Campus Inn situation? >> Although you may not agree with these positions, would you still >> deny the stated scenarios took place in face of repeated written >> accounts of those who took the side of the community and were punished? >> Could you acknowledge there might be hurt feelings by those who may >> have supported the various UC community groups¹ agendas before, but >> NOW find themselves without ³Friends² now that it affects them? >> Do you deny there are accounts of public record, i.e. UC Review and >> minutes of SHCA and CPN that buffet these arguments? >> >> Whenever I post on this listserv about controversial community issues, >> I try to present my opinions using the facts as I know them. >> When someone makes an assertion I do not know, or proves me wrong with >> the facts, I have publicly said I stand corrected or apologized if I >> was brusque or in error. >> >> I request publicly you answer my questions or just the first one would >> be enough. > > > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
