Can anyone give advice about good installers of tankless water heaters in the West Philadelphia area (or Philly more broadly)? We have heard that bosch tankless water heaters are great (expensive, but great). Any advice would be very helpful.
Best, justin ______________ Dr. Justin McDaniel Dept. of Religious Studies 3046 INTN University of California, Riverside Riverside, CA 92521 951-827-4530 [email protected] ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:09:41 -0400 >From: [email protected] (on behalf of "Elliot M. Stern" ><[email protected]>) >Subject: Re: [UC] water heater >To: Gerardo Razumney <[email protected]> >Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > > I used point of use tankless hot water heaters many > years ago in Vienna, Austria. What I suggested your > friends do with their whole house tankless hot water > heater, lowering the hot water temperature and > mixing in less cold water, involves the same > principle of controlling the temperature of the hot > water produced by the hot water heater. Some > tankless water heaters have optional remote controls > that make it possible to adjust the hot water > temperature without going down to the basement. > Gerardo is right that the most efficient tankless > hot water installation is point of use, but the cost > of running gas pipe to all locations might be pretty > steep, and there might be a negative impact on air > quality (point of use water heaters may not have > exterior venting for products of combustion). > Elliot > On 06 May 2009, at 2:53 PM, Gerardo Razumney wrote: > > I grew up in an apartment with a tankless heater. > If the heaters now are similar to that one, you > adjust the temperature using a control at the > heater, rather than by mixing hot and cold water, > as you do when you have a hot water tank. If you > try to mix, the heater turns off because the flow > of water through it is too low. This makes it > rather impractical to put a tankless heater in the > basement -- it has to be close to the point of > use. In addition, the point in using a tankless > heater is to minimize losses, and if the heater is > as far away from the point of use as in the case > of a hot water tank you have not gain anything. > > Gerardo Razumney > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:00 AM, > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Elliot, > > What kind of tankless did you get? We were > considering one but friends that installed a > whole house tankless talked us out of it after > recounting all the problems they are having with > theirs. (Their issues relate to the gpm (gallons > per minute) water flow. Either their usage is > not enough to trip the heater into action (say, > washing your hands in warm water) or it's not > stong enough to keep it heating (say, taking a > cool shower in the summer). They have been > surprised a number of times with cold blasts in > the shower.) > > Thanks! > > Naomi > > On May 5, 2009, Elliot M. Stern > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Elisabeth, > > I don't know the details of the legislation > for the federal credit > that apply to tankless water heaters installed > in 2009, but you should > find out if you have to subtract the state > credit from the federal > credit, or if you can combine them. > > I installed a tankless water heater in January > 2007. Because the tank > water heater I replaced was located near the > common wall of our > semidetached house, and the tankless water > heater is located on the > alley wall, I reduced the hot water line run > by some 20'. This means I > get hot water sooner than I did before, and > that I have to flush out > less cold water in the pipes to get it. I also > expect that the > tankless water heater will last a lot longer > than a tank water heater, > and that it may be possible to repair it > rather than replace it, if it > breaks down. Finally, I have the comfort of > knowing that there is no > tank to rupture and flood the basement. > > Elliot > > ---- > You are receiving this because you are > subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for > archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > ---- You are receiving this because you are > subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To > unsubscribe or for archive information, see . > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > United States of America > telephone: 215-747-6204 > mobile: 267-240-8418 > [email protected] ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
