Just thinking out loud - maybe we need a rain garden in the bowl! (I know,
probably not practical, but these are the kinds of things we could think
about).


On 9/29/09 9:35 PM, "Kimm Tynan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think it's nonsense, Tony.  In this day and age, chemical fertilizers
> and pesticides are pretty widely viewed as pretty backwards.  Given Mayor
> Nutter's emphasis on being green, I think the issue of what chemicals are
> being pumped into Clark and other parks is an entirely valid one for public
> discussion - not just for safety of kids and pets but for broader ecological
> reasons.  And there's no need to be defensive -  I don't think anyone is
> accusing Moon Site Management of being evil people.  That doesn't mean folks
> can't raise issues with specific things they do that people might want
> changed.
> 
> I think Glenn has a point.  Does anyone care if there are dandelions in Clark
> Park?  We all want grass in our park, but is fertilizer really necessary?  If
> so could we find a greener alternative?  Let's call Mike McGrath (from the
> radio, not the neighborhood)!
> 
> I imagine there would be a lot of popular support in the neighborhood for
> trying to make Clark Park a model of green, ecofriendly maintenance.  I would
> imagine that that is the sort of thing Mike Diberardinis would leap to
> support.  Given that "green" is hot, and that FOCP's job is theoretically to
> advocate for the desires and interests of park users and the surrounding
> community, this seems like an ideal campaign to take up.  I would guess there
> a lot of funding sources for this type of thing right now.
> 
> I mean, if the city can embark on this project:
> 
> http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/62007227.html
> 
> Why can't we eliminate chemicals from our parks?
> 
> If FOCP were to take up this battle, I might even be lured to get involved.
> 
> Really, I can't see why you're so dismissive of the issue.
> 
> Kimm
> 
> On 9/29/09 6:42 PM, "Anthony West" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> It's all very well known, KC. It's been going on for 10 years now. Clark
>> Park is a part of the City of Philadelphia Dept. of Recreation and and
>> this is what the City welcomes to have done in this park. It spares the
>> City the cost of doing the job itself, which is appreciated when there
>> is a budget crisis, as there is now.
>> 
>> The guys who were hired are Moon Site Management. They are the reason
>> the trash is removed twice a week rather than once a week during the
>> peak season. They are the reason the grass in the park is mown more than
>> once every 2 months in the peak season. And they are the sole reason the
>> grass gets any maintenance at all; your tax dollars purchase ZERO lawn
>> care ever, for our neighborhood's most cherished and most heavily used
>> and abused lawn.
>> 
>> It isn't enough. But it's better than nothing. Neighbors who care about
>> Clark Park pitch in every spring to the 'Party for the Park' fundraiser
>> that supports this neighborhood green initiative. Maybe you'll join us
>> next year!
>> 
>> I can't tell you tonight precisely which ground-care treatment was
>> applied today. At this time of year, it's more likely to have been a
>> fertilizer than an herbicide. Some fertilizers are toxic to animals,
>> though, and require a certain amount of settling in before creatures
>> should walk across treated areas. That's why warning signs are placed by
>> Rec. When the risk has passed, the signs are removed.
>> 
>> For people who want the facts on this particular chemical, we'll round
>> that up and report back to you tomorrow.
>> 
>> In the meantime, please don't panic about this "poison" nonsense. People
>> who've lived in the neighborhood for a while have heard all Glenn's
>> stuff before. It is more of a personal problem than a public problem.
>> 
>> -- Tony West
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> KC Hibbard wrote:
>>> Does anyone know who actually contracted the ground poisoning? Seems
>>> that that party should be targeted. The most immediate at risk part of
>>> the population from herbicide and pesticide use is children and pets.
>>> They have a faster metabolism. Think of the kids kicking around in the
>>> dust at the fair this past week. Breathing poison dirt. The long range
>>> risks involve destroying our watershed. This practice  is
>>> irresponsible and must be stopped.
>>> 
>>> It's funny that Penn is touting it's committment to environmental
>>> causes, creating more green space all the while dumping herbicides all
>>> summer and wacking the grass with weed wackers so it dies at the edges
>>> of the lawns so they repeat the grass- seed -poison cycle.
>>> 
>>> Is it UCD, FOCP or Fairmount Park? Who hired these guys?
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