I can speak from my own experience, that when construction of that intersection 
began, I assumed it was for a Penn project, however I could find no reference 
to a Penn project, the Streets department outright denied it, and there was no 
mention whatsoever of the project in any major Penn publication that I could 
find. Only months into it was it reported that Penn planned to build a building 
there. And hey, I think it was a great decision - even if I hate that 
intersection even more now and feel it's worse that it was before.
And yes Tony, you point out it is a two way street, and a big part of Penn's 
planning often seems to revolve around avoiding a neighborhood uprising. It's 
always a balance, and some people accept the trade-offs as worth it, and others 
do not.

Darco

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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Anthony West [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:53 PM
To: UnivCity Listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] UCD is innocent

Also a sound account.

But the most important discussion of neighborhood development, of course, is 
always whether the development is good for the neighborhood or not. Correct?

I gassed up and repaired my vehicle at that garage many a time. But it posed a 
pollution problem due to an elderly leaking tank, I heard. It takes big bucks 
to fix a brownfield problem like this. Fortunately, Penn has big bucks. So an 
elderly gas station was replaced with a shining new vet-school facility. The 
vet school has always been an asset to UC; now it's even more of an asset.

Where's the problem, neighbors and neighborettes? Why are we now whining about 
a neighborhood improvement that has no apparent downside?

I suppose Penn could have led with its Dark Side. It could have said: "We plan 
to build a Big Building that will Forever Change the Essential Character of the 
ordinary West Philadelphia neighbors who live a peaceful life at 39th & 
Baltimore, entirely unaffected by the large university that just happens to be 
next door, that they all hate, because all good progressives hate universities, 
just like the GOP does."

But it didn't. Instead, it simply got the building built, bypassing our 
neighborhood's pseudo-radical nonsense by any means necessary. How else could 
it accomplish anything?

Dialog is, by definition, a two-way street. If UC leftists wish to be accepted 
as equal, rational partners in community planning for this off-campus 
neighborhood, they need to quit foaming at the mouth every time a university 
tries to solve a festering real-estate sore for us, as it did at the 38th & 
Woodland gas station and again at the 40th & Pine nursing home.

-- Tony West



On 5/18/2010 8:21 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
But I simply cannot believe that Karen's reporting this accurately. What did 
she think-- that the project was _just_ a road reconfiguration? Didn't people 
see the announcements, the artists' conceptions, the maps, the website? I sure 
did. It was _always_ to accommodate a new Vet building. Artists' conceptions 
were always part of the presentations. Every presentation I saw, every web 
site, every announcement, said that a new Vet building was going up. This bit 
about 'they told us it was for traffic flow" is hard to believe.

What is Karen saying-- that they kept a _whole building project_ as a _secret_?

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