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On 9/24/10 3:04 PM, "Lalevic, Darco" <[email protected]> wrote: > Bullshit. > > I understand all too well the rise of corporatism, the failings of society, > the consequences of war, hate, racism, and distrust. I have experienced it and > seen it first hand. > > I also don¹t want you to speak for me. I can do it myself. I was born in this > neighborhood and have lived here almost all of my life. I too am often > offended by the bias and misinformation that is often propagated as marketing > for ³University City². As for happening ³right here, right now² I can tell you > it¹s been happening ³right here² for as long as I can remember, and I¹m pretty > sure for longer than that. > > What I¹m offended by is that you choose Clark Park as the focal representation > of societal horrors. Sure, I disagree with UCD and FOCP on many issues, but > I¹m willing to bet after they blow all that money, the park will be used by > the same people as it is now. Yes, I disagree with (what I perceive as) the > push to disenfranchise certain people from the park (I¹m not accusing anyone > directly of doing so, I¹m reflecting on the selective enforcement of what I > consider stupid laws). And yes, what is happening is representative of our > society in general. > > But to equate what is happening with Clark Park in any way with the death of > millions is disrespectful. Additionally, it puts your argument into the > irrational category for most people. Your yelling that the world is going to > end, rather than providing detailed facts to your argument, inevitably causes > fewer people to become involved. As you yourself have pointed out, how many > others have publicly fought against the Clark Park changes? The fact is, by > not engaging the argument in a logical, academic way, you¹ve pushed the > relevance of your argument to the wayside. > > And really, 5 years of planning? I remember seeing a plan for ³revitalizing² > Clark Park 10 years ago! If someone didn¹t know this was coming then they > clearly have not been paying attention. > > Darco > > PS: I have one for you: > ³A shepherd-boy, who watched a flock of sheep near a village, brought out the > villagers three or four times by crying out, "Wolf! Wolf!" and when his > neighbors came to help him, laughed at them for their pains. The Wolf, > however, did truly come at last. The Shepherd-boy, now really alarmed, shouted > in an agony of terror: "Pray, do come and help me; the Wolf is killing the > sheep"; but no one paid any heed to his cries, nor rendered any assistance. > The Wolf, having no cause of fear, at his leisure lacerated or destroyed the > whole flock.² Aesop > > > > From: Glenn [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:36 PM > To: Lalevic, Darco > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR > > Darco, > > I would normally wish to ignore the ambiguous injury you suffered in your one > line tweet. These tweets solely to intimidate speakers or chill speech of > others should not ordinarily receive a serious response. > > > But the code of silence which you invoke is so severely dangerous that I must > respond publicly! > > Many of us, who have learned from the WW II holocaust and all the other > holocausts, also stand firmly behind the knowledge that the lessons from the > history must never be forgotten or silenced. Otherwise, they will always > repeat. > > A million people died in the Iran Iraq war when we armed Saddam Hussein to > kill Persians. How many died in Vietnam and Cambodia as they were called > gooks? How many died in Iraq from US sanctions? An estimated million more > Iraqis died in the recent war and there are millions of refugees destabilizing > the entire region. Those dead people were called ragheads in military > recruitment video games. This blood offends me and those dead millions can't > tell their stories! > > > Darco, this blood and much more has been spilled since 1945. I won't be > silenced while the main cause this blood was spilled is because too much of > middle class America has indeed forgotten the reasons why Neimoller's quote is > carved in granite on holocaust memorials around the world. I think those > words should be studied and discussed by every high school student in America. > (I copied the famous quote by hand because I wanted it burned into my mind.) > Those who wish to mystify the holocausts and deny the study of these frighten > me! > > > A main lesson of that quote has to do with the inevitable course history will > take when good people stay silent when "the other" is first defined and > dehumanized. > > > For many years, the people from Clark Park and West Philly have been actively > portrayed as criminals, prostitutes, gangs, etc. My inner city neighbors and > poor people have similarly been categorized and caged afterward. Less than a > year ago, a UCD executive was quoted in a city wide paper claiming that > "people" did not go West of 43rd St before the UCD takeover. I was OFFENDED! > > To those of us who understand the messages in Neimoller's words, this > intensive dehumanizing propaganda campaign against my neighbors has been > alarming. This process that WE MUST NEVER FORGET is happening right here, > RIGHT NOW! > > > The code of silence required to avoid offending you is extremely dangerous. I > also want people to see the body bags and feel uncomfortable with the global > horror caused because they refuse to speak up against racism and all the > forces to define "others" and strip them of their rights and lives. I don't > give a damn who is offended or uncomfortable. > > Now Darco, I can tell you to take your silly ambiguous tweet and stuff it. > > Sincerely, > Glenn > > For emphasis: > ³They came first for the Communists, > and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. > > Then they came for the trade unionists, > and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. > > Then they came for the Jews, > and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. > > Then they came for me > and by that time no one was left to speak up.² > > Pastor Martin Neimoller > > > > > > On 9/23/2010 2:14 PM, Lalevic, Darco wrote: > Glenn, > > While I appreciate your futile intentions to wrest control of Clark Park from > the UCD/Penn/FOCP/everyone-else conspiracy, I find it extremely offensive that > you use a Holocaust reference for effect. > > Darco > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Glenn > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR > > Citizens, > Here is the UC Review coverage of the Clark park closure. Like always, the > local residents are supposed to feel stupid while they are wondering how they > missed ³nearly five years of planning and nearly countless public meetings > geared toward receiving community feedback on revitalizing Park "A" (UC > Review) > > http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-lo > cal-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=default&smenu=1&mad=no > <http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-l > ocal-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=default&smenu=1&mad=no> > > > If you looked closely at the announcements of Friends of Clark Park meetings > over the past few years, a few mentioned ³updates² about ³maintenance.² > Almost no one from the community, other than the anointed FOCP leaders > themselves, bore the pain of these gatherings as I did. > > > Fact: There was no portion at FOCP board meetings that was ever geared toward > receiving PUBLIC feedback about Penn¹s plan to redesign the park! > > > Eyewitness account: A few minutes (4 or 5) were left at the end of each show, > in case anyone wanted to thank and applaud the FOCP leaders. For three > consecutive years, I attempted to make a one minute statement to voice > opposition to the closed, secretive and exclusive process which was driving > Penn¹s redesign. Each time I was silenced (Snyder, Snyder, Melmen)! That is > what FOCP claims were countless public meetings for feedback. > > > As indicated in the UCR article, the other "public process" was to find out > about Siano and West frightening people PRIVATELY at the farmer¹s market. > Everyone is to believe that while Siano and West demanded 20 dollars from > people with false promises of inclusion, that citizens had a legitimate > process for providing ³feedback² to the closed and secret Clark Park > Partnership. It¹s as silly and dishonest as melani¹s private ³in-box² survey > for BID supporters. (I wish more people understood the very basic principles > involved!) > > It looks like the big lie has now become part of the history of West > Philadelphia as advanced by UCD. > > Reality: The years between the rejection of Penn¹s plan to redesign Clark > Park as well as these FOCP ³updates² were always designed to keep the public > confused and excluded from the UNPOPULAR plan. They kept saying the community > wants this destruction and kept telling the public that there were public > meetings. They never allowed park user groups to participate or observe the > planning meetings since Penn first hand picked the ³master plan steering > committee.² Only FOCP leaders were allowed and all others were banned. > > When Aaron told the reporter that 100 people, he knew, were surprised by the > slaughter of trees, we are all supposed to believe that they just didn¹t pay > enough attention while the FOCP patiently begged for community feedback in > public meetings! Are the people going to stay silent against this lie????? > > Wake up: The three stooges, West, Siano, and Chance, helped Penn privatize > Clark Park and give absolute control of Clark Park to UCD, masked as the > closed "Clark Park Partnership." It wasn¹t public feedback meetings that > everyone missed. It was the loss of our rights, as local residents and as > citizens, that we failed to see and stand up against with these deceptions! > > Today, it is the park users whose culture and rights are being destroyed. I > copied this from the Holocaust memorial in downtown Boston for the silent ones > to consider: > > ³They came first for the Communists, > and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. > > Then they came for the trade unionists, > and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. > > Then they came for the Jews, > and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. > > Then they came for me > and by that time no one was left to speak up.² > > Pastor Martin Neimoller > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3154 - Release Date: 09/23/10 > 02:34:00 > > >
