Good responses here Glenn.  Perhaps the reason they did not let my email 
through yet is the inclusion there of this list's subscription info.  Even 
Linda Lee did not (dare?) mention it before when I asked, I had to google it 
and then hunt it down like a detective...  Clark Park now looks like a lot like 
Tony West, about the same, but with a fancy tie and well-pressed suit.  It is 
all so much like the debacle that occurred involving the Swim Club... where 
they said "we need to redesign the club because the City said we need a H/C 
ramp in front".  Then they spend tons of unneeded $ rebuilding, we lost use of 
it (but not the cost of it for more than a year) and they don't even put in the 
H/C ramp which my mother could now really use.   Rick Conrad

On May 5, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Glenn wrote:

> 
> 
> On 5/4/2011 11:24 PM, Anthony West wrote:
>> 
>> There has been a lot of hooraw on this list of late about Clark Park, which 
>> began with a recent post of misinformation on this listserve from a 
>> well-known source of nutty falsehoods. The latest round began with his 
>> "report" on chemical treatments involved in the rehabilitation of the North 
>> Park or "A" Park, between Baltimore and Chester Avenues.
>> 
>> Questions about such subjects are completely justified, always. That's one 
>> of the things Friends of Clark Park looks into, whenever it gets community 
>> feedback on concerns that matter to this community. We want this job done -- 
>> but we want it done right.
>> 
>> People who want the real facts on this process -- the restoration of our 
>> belovèd, but heavily damaged, North Park -- can swing by FoCP's table at the 
>> Spruce Hill May Fair this Saturday. The weather bids to be fair and you'll 
>> have a great time! So come to the park and meet your neighbors. They'll tell 
>> you everything you need to know.
>> 
>> --Tony West
> 
> Of course, Mr West didn't just give any facts on this public list.
> 
> The years of FOCP officers' ad hominem laced refusals to PUBLICLY answer ANY 
> questions, fully confirms the years of reports about the DELIBERATE exclusion 
> and secrecy behind the Clark Park privatization.  The fallacious attacks that 
> we've seen recently are not new.   
> 
>   What must be communicated to newcomers in the area was that the complete 
> redesign of Clark Park was overwhelmingly rejected 7-8 years ago and PUBLIC 
> MEETINGS were the reason it was stopped!  (The importance of public meetings 
> to both neighborhoods and democracy is fundamental, as careful study of the 
> Clark Park history demonstrates.)   
> 
> 
> 
> Over the past 8 years, the FOCP leadership has insisted that the public must 
> check the FOCP web site, give all feedback to an FOCP table(West/Siano), and 
> give a $20 fee, as the only participation or information neighbors are 
> permitted in important community decisions.   To insist on such a ridiculous 
> position should make people angry!  It's condescending to all of you expected 
> to swallow it!  (Neighbors were also supposed to have private "coffee 
> meetings" if they had concerns about the 11 story hotel, or about secret 
> deals with SHCA and UCHS leaders.)
> 
> 
> Newcomers may believe something about the attempts to portray them, and 
> everyone else, as unobservant disinterested cranks, waiting to cause trouble 
> until the FOCP insiders did their hard work .  Don't!
> 
> It has long been a civic association trick to mask secret processes by 
> blaming the victims!  People are told that any comments are far too late, 
> when the grabs for power are disclosed (e.g. the phone line to nowhere).  The 
> deceivers claim that civic association leaders had a "democratic process" 
> among themselves, and neighbors were too stupid and disinterested because 
> they missed it.  
> 
> 
> Neighbors are supposed to blame themselves quietly and slink away in awe of 
> the power of civic association leaders. 
> 
> Your "input and suggestions" are never going to be considered by any civic 
> association that uses this big lie against you.  Neither can you watch the 
> misinformation delivered to your neighbors, nor the dissent coming from them 
> as they are privately insulted!  
> 
> 
> 
> Part of the reason I publicly reported about the secret meetings for so many 
> years, while I was always personally attacked, was so that neighbors could 
> see how important EXCLUSION was to the mission of FOCP, acting to protect the 
> corporate, Penn led, privatization! 
> 
> No you weren't unconcerned and stupid, you were excluded from an illegitimate 
> process!  Neighbors need to ask each other, are we going to continue to be 
> silenced by the big lie of the FOCP/UCD bullies???  Do you understand that 
> everyone has lost citizen rights regarding public spaces, and that much more 
> has happened in Clark Park than comments about a little maintenance????
> 
> Glenn
> PS:  I'll be in Boston during the May Fair.  Don't deal with those bullies 
> unless you bring your friends and neighbors!  Don't take their bullshit 
> anymore!  Power to the people!
> 
> 
> 
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