RE: "When they came to this location, they brought a renewed vitality to the 
40th Street corridor, improving the economy, the activity, and safety of the 
area in conjunction with other neighborhood development in West Philadelphia,” 
Datz said."
 
Well, I have to tell you that I am absolutely floored to learn that Ed Datz and 
the UP Real Estate experts got this wrong. They know everything... and I know 
that because they told us so themselves. I mean, questioning them is like 
questioning Einstein's theory of relativity, or questioning that the Earth 
revolves around the Sun.  What do we tell the children????    
 
Coming  back to reality, this is the same type of thing that  Datz, Lussenhop 
and their cronies in the neighborhood said about why 40th and Pine would have 
been the perfect spot for the "Campus Inn". So imagine where we would all be if 
they had been successful in getting that  monstrosity built there-- someday 
we'd be reading about how the Campus Inn failed and that they now have no other 
choice but to turn it into a dormatory... 
 
And as for the Marathon Grille itself, I had been noticing that there didn't 
seem to be much patronage of its outdoor seating during nice weather, which 
seemed unusual since the new prevailing thought is that every business has to 
have outdoor seating. And it seemed even more unusual given that 40th and 
Walnut is a high traffic area.  


Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:58:11 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Another example of the misguided planning by the self-anointed









Yes, all of those campus corridors are a revolving door for businesses!  
Marathon Grill lasted longer than most.
According to a UCD executive, "people" didn't go west of 43rd St before 2003.  
I wonder how all those long term businesses beyond 43rd have survived beyond 
"people" and Penn's magic?  According to all the Penn research, graphs, and 
press releases only their type of domination and high prices can "revitalize" a 
neighborhood.  Hmmm. 
Penn doesn't care when they lure businesses to overpriced leases by telling 
them they've created the new Rodeo Drive.  If one of our neighbors wants to 
start a business on one of those revolving door corridors, please ask them to 
get their head examined! 
 
 
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From: [email protected] 
Sent: May 24, 2011 8:11 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [UC] Another example of the misguided planning by the self-anointed 


>From Monday's DP:
 
Another example of the best laid plans of mice (the Penn Real Estate Dept) and 
men going awry. Penn's criteria for pricing and finding tenants for their 
retail spaces have created a revolving door in many cases. This, on top of 
providing an example for the impressionable undergrads of that venerable 
institution about the types of businesses worthy of their patronage. Townies 
trying to bootstrap themselves into business by the sweat of their brows need 
not apply. 
 
Well, one can hardly expect anything worthwhile from planners in general and 
from the wonderful folks who tried to bring the neighborhood the "extended stay 
hotel" at 40th & Pine in particular.
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Marathon Grill at 40th and Walnut closed
by Grace Ortelere | Monday, May 23, 2011 at 6:34 pm





Many students may be sad to learn the University City location of the 
restaurant Marathon Grill and its lounge MarBar closed their doors on Monday.

The Marathon Grill located at 200 South 40th Street decided not to renew its 
lease due to declining business over the last few years, Penn’s Executive 
Director of Real Estate Ed Datz said in a statement.
The University City Marathon Grill opened in 2004, replacing a Burger King. 
“When they came to this location, they brought a renewed vitality to the 40th 
Street corridor, improving the economy, the activity, and safety of the area in 
conjunction with other neighborhood development in West Philadelphia,” Datz 
said.
According to Datz, the University is in the process of searching for a 
proprietor to replace the retail space.
Marathon Grill has five other locations throughout the city which will stay 
open, Datz said. Its restaurant at 929 Walnut Street has an affiliated lounge, 
Upbar.
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