Let's focus on the facts, JackOfAll have clearly announced that he don't
plan to continue as packager/developer in the CSOS project, he did that
weeks ago, yesterdays post was just a clarification. We don't know the
exact reasons for it and frankly it's none of our business, if JackOfAll
doesn't want to continue that's his decision and he doesn't have to tell
us exactly why. If JackOfAll still wants to continue posting in this
thread and other CSOS related threads, we should encourage him rather
then question if he is back in the project. If he sometime in the future
would decide to join the project again, I'm sure he will let us know and
in that case we should of course welcome him back.
I'll consider Community Squeeze to be dead when we have also heard from
Triode/JohnSwenson that they don't plan to continue, the fact that they
are silent is probably because they are currently considering what
options they have. From my perspective there are a lot people around
here with a lot of knowledge, we shouldn't let the idea with a community
based player die because one project member doesn't feel it's fun to
work on it anymore. If someone have experience with software packaging
or driver development and want to help it's probably a good idea to
contact Triode or JohnSwenson and let them know.
It might sound strange that the following comes from me, but I'm going
to say it anyway since I've personal experience in the area.
I think generally we all have to realise that most(all?) third party
developers around here spend their spare time to improve our music
listening experience. Some do it for free because they like the
challenge and the idea to do something for the community while others do
it for a small compensation through commercial apps/plugins, but in all
cases we are talking about people who prefer to prioritise their spare
time to be spent on things that prolong the life of the Squeezebox
universe.
It's easy to forget about this when you want a new feature or you are
frustrated because your system doesn't work or you are tired of waiting.
Let's be honest, it's our own individual choice if we want to stay in
the Squeezebox universe and this community or if we want to move on to
Sonos and other similar systems. If we choose to stay in the community,
we should also make the third party developers feel appreciated and
consider spending our own time to help them with whatever we can, it
might be as easy as testing a new software version or giving feedback on
a solution to guide them in the right direction.
There are some people who believe this is all about money, please
realise that this is NOT the case. With money the demands, critique and
expectations increases rather than decreases, so when you decide to
start asking for money you also have to be prepared to handle requests
from users and helping users who don't get everything to work. In this
regard money can actually make the situation worse if the main problem
is that you feel that people have too high expectations or you feel a
demand from them who you can't fulfil.
I would personally prefer to see a commercial community based player
rather than no community based player at all, but I also understand what
kind of commitment this would require from the people behind it so I'm
not going to ask for that, I'll instead leave it up to the people behind
it to decide what's appropriate. In my mind it doesn't matter if it
costs money, it doesn't matter if costs as much many as other commercial
alternatives out there, it doesn't matter if the people behind it earn a
lot of money on it, but it do matters that the people behind it is happy
so let's leave the choice to them and let's not push them into a
particular direction.
My experience tells me that in these kind of projects, limited time is a
lot bigger problem than limited budget. You might think that money could
solve this, but in reality it's hard to earn enough money so it's
possible to quit your day job, the community is just too small for this.
Even if it would be possible to earn enough money to quit your day job,
most people also have a family to think about and have to think about
how the situation is going to look like 1-2 years in the future.
Now, please remember this and let's try to not push Triode and
JohnSwenson for an answer right now, if they need time to think about
their options, let's give them some time.
JackOfAll, thanks for all your efforts in the Community Squeeze project.
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream&p=743516)*.
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