Okay, you make a lot of arguments here for buying a very crappy drive which you even admit is crappy and unreliable. If this is your way of saying, 'You can't afford to do this,' then I hear you loud and clear. But I'm not going to respond to every one of your points number by number. Suffice it to say that by your logic one might as well try to write one's data on a shredded piece of paper. And no, a drive that has been sitting on my desk since it was shipped is not at all as trustworthy as an anonymous drive of equal age found thrown in a bin. It's kind of odd that you are even asking me to defend that statement. I think I have rubbed you the wrong way or something. If so, I apologise.
Also, I think we differ fundamentally on why we are doing this. You want to tinker and learn, and you'll pay to get that value. I want a system I can rely on for actual work (and learn OS X and UNIX on the side but *not* for paying work) while I save up for a better system. I don't think my goals are inferior. Just different. And yes, I do make backups, and no, that doesn't change anything.
I leave you with two minor corrections. (a) My FreeBSD box is an old unaccelerated PII I got for free, not a PIII (which I would immediately sell if I had one and put the cash toward a Mac). And (b) I haven't 'bitched' about anything. I admit I've been a little wordy about it, but all I've done is state what I did and what it accomplished for me, and asked for tips on what I have yet to accomplish. This is the UnsupportedOSX mailing list, right? I haven't accidentally posted this to MOO-Cows?
Anyway, take care, dude. Try not to let idiots like me who must do things their own way get to you.
Paul.
On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 13:30 Canada/Eastern, Liam Proven wrote:
I don't really know what a "surplus store" is - you're talking American toAs for the $10 drive you mention, well ... there IS a surplus store around here
me, I'm afraid - but yeah, that's the kind of thing.
But that IS what you should do.
[1] You're trusting an ancient 1GB SCSI drive now, aren't you?
[2] Who said anything about data? This is just for the OS. You already
said you had a big disk in a PIII shared - put your data there.
[3] If the data are important, then you take backups, right? So what's to
worry about? If you don't take backups, then it's not important, is it?
[4] Needs must when the devil calls the tune, or whatver the old proverb
thing is. If you want to play, but can't afford new kit, then use old kit
and stop bitching about it, or stop playing. Personally, I spent �350 or
so upgrading an old free Mac to learn OS X. It's been such fun that it was
worth it, but the machine's still not good for much; it's money down the
drain. But if I get a couple of jobs because of my new OS X skills, it's
paid for itself. But that's WAY more than I've spent on my PCs in years -
they're all either gifts or cobbled together from old cheap or free bits.
You have to decide if it's worth the money or not. But the "I don't trust
old kit" or "my data are too important" arguments do not hold water.
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