I've had my hands full with Panther problems. I don't know what to say, but both my Panther firewire drives went south after that last update, and appear unsalvageable as far as the System installation goes. I'll archive reinstall tonight. I assume I can salvage the data. They're both non-bootable now (something about 'master password'). DiskWarrior has shown that every file on one drive is 'overlapped' (over 100K files! ). Just running DiskWarrior takes a few hours, when normally it's a few minutes.
Quite isn't good. All quite is ominous. Kris Tilford

I am glad every ones still out there ;-)


I had similar issue with a supported B&W box with Panther, an update and then two reinstalls including format partition that Panther lived on. Yes I know it's supported but thought story worthy for others who may see weird behaviour. My problem ended up being the Grappler SCSI driver installer (which incidently I now no longer need as I flashed card to be a "dumb" card rather than bootable) being too old and caused a corruption to a series of files that were not identifiable easily (with thanks to Peter De SIlva for assistance here!).

Problems seemed to start after I ran either the 10.3.2 update, Java 1.4.2 or one of the recent security patches.

Behavior included almost all Apple software products launching but not presenting the user interface, all showed up as active processes but I couldn't use them! And as you would guess, Disk Utility was one of them as was installer so there went those options. Similarly third party disk tools also had problems. Boot to single user and some FCSK commands all reported fine but disk still very sick.

In the end cleanest way was copy files that I needed to another partition, including applications (some did need full reinstall such as Adobe CS, but most coped with drag copy), then format partition and do a fresh install (painful as I only have an upgrade 10.3 so Panther first, then the updates as needed.

Oops, forgot to mention that the Panther boot partition was an ATA drive hanging off internal IDE bus and not SCSI as may be implied by above info. SCSI is used for Zip and Scanner

Hope this may shed some light on your problems as well.

Regards

Simon

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