Hi Mark,

I think having fun with your computer of choice is apart of the joy of
computing. All my friends wonder why I still like MacOS 8.6 to run Harpoon
and F/A-18 Hornet flight Sim games.  Well it's cause they are still viable
for doing everything I need, but surfing on multimedia-driven websites. My
last good computer was a Umax S-900 200/384Ram, it had space for 4 hard
drives and had a huge upgrade path. I gave it away when I acquired a IBM
Clone P4 1.4Ghz WinXP system. (what was I thinking?)I was miserable for 3
years after with Windows glitches and crashes. All the money I spent on
applications was crazy. So now, I'm back with the Macs for screenwriting and
image editing.  Who needs a 1 Ghz system for that?  No One.  Hey, why buy
new when you don't need to. That's why I'm still with older Macs.

Always,

Wayne



-----Original Message-----
From: Unsupported OS X [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mark
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:13 PM
To: Unsupported OS X
Subject: Re: OS X on an 8600

$800?  Hmm, you made me think.  So I totaled up my actual costs.  
Including shipping, it breaks down to:

Sonett G4/800                      $352.94
Maxtor 80G Hard Drive          70.96
Tempo Trio                            138.35
Radeon 7000                           42.83
Memory                                 139.96

So, $745.04, not quite $800.  But 2 things:  I have not spent 1 dime on 
computer hardware over the past 5 years.  This 8600 was a hand-me-down 
from my wife when we bought her a dual-processor G4-Sawtooth in 2000.  
So, my cost per year (up to now) on this computer is $149.01.  I believe 
this set-up is now good until we can afford a dual-processor Intel-based 
Mac for my wife, at which point I will most likely end up with her old 
(now upgraded to dual-processor 1.4G) Sawtooth.  3-5 years, possibly.

Secondly:  Yeah, it's a 50mhz bus.  And I see there is a Sawtooth with a 
1g G4 upgrade on ebay right now with a Buy It Now price of $625.  With 
no bids, it could probably be had for less.  It does not have SCSI 
support, so I would have to get a card for that, or a new scanner.  It 
does not have analogue A/V inputs, so I would need a USB adapter for 
that.  I guess it's a wash.  This 8600 is doing all I need for now, and 
more than I ever would have imagined.

Oh, and I really *did* have fun getting all this old stuff to work.  
You're right about that!

In defense of antiques,
Mark in Westminster

Wayne wrote:

>From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: OS X on an 8600
>Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:45:08 -0400
>
>Thanks Mark [in Westminster]!
>
>Though you made things run easily on your 8600/800 G4, I am hard pressed to

>invest $800 worth of upgrades to get that old 50Mhz system bus Mac.  Thanks

>for teh confidence build - it must have been fun.
>
>Wayne
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Unsupported OS X" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:34 AM
>Subject: Re: OS X on an 8600
>
>
>  
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>I am running OS X 10.3.8 on a (formerly) 8600/250 as I'm tapping this in. 
>>KICKS A**!!  (I say formerly 'cuz I *did* get the Sonnet G4/800.  Also 
>>running Tempo Trio, Radeon 7000/32, and a Maxtor 80G IDE hard drive.  I'm 
>>also pumped up to 800 meg of memory.)  It's been fast, stable and reliable

>>for the past 3-mos; not a crash to report.  I have iLife '05 loaded (sans 
>>Garage Band.  Just don't need it....), and burn dvd's on a Pioneer
DVR-S606 
>>(the encased version of their DVR-106).  The audio and video ports work, 
>>though I have to run OS 9.2.2 to input my old non-digital stuff because it

>>seems the programs I'm using written for OS X assume one does not have 
>>these analog inputs.  Ditto for my old SCSI scanner.
>>
>>I won't say it went on easy.  However, most of my problems involved a 
>>learning curve for me.  And heat problems with the CPU.  (After two bum 
>>fans from Sonnet, I scavanged a couple of well-used but still running CPU 
>>fans from some discarded Pentium-based machines, and all my crashing 
>>ended.)   Now that I know what to do and how to do it, it would be snap, 
>>relatively, should I ever have to do it again.  My only real issue is I 
>>can't get the dvd burner to be recognized on Tempo Trio's USB 2.0 port. 
>>Firewire?  No problem.
>>
>>Now, I'm seriously considering the jump to Tiger....
>>
>>Mark in Westminster 



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