My solution to running disk utilities is available because I have 2 physical drives installed. This has allowed my to create 2 8GB partitions to install OSX onto. One of them I use as my main boot drive, and the second only has my disk utilities on it. This allows me to boot to the second drive and run Apple's disk utility on the first disk whenever I upgrade. Now, the real problem you are having is that OSX keeps on going down on you. This should not be happening. I have run it daily on my 9600/G4/800 without any issues. I should say without any issues seen by people running on supported machines. I'm running 10.3.9 and it is extremely stable and 10.2.x was also very stable. One thing I did notice is that OS X became more stable once I turned journaling on. As for backups I am running Retrospect to backup my data files (incremental backup of /usr daily, and the main disk every week or two.)

What version of OS X are you running, what is your hardware, and what are your symptoms when it goes down?

I have a curiosity question for everyone on this list about maintaining unsupported OS X Macs. About every 3 or 4 months one of my unsupported Macs goes down and I end up having to reinstall the OS X System Software. This is a real pain especially in my Power Macintosh 8500s as I have to take them all apart and swap the CD burner for a high speed Apple Drive to reinstall the OS X software. I know there are two keys to solving this problem: 1. Backing up and 2. A good disk repair utility. Both of these keys present problems in and of themselves. On the back up side I only know of one piece of software that might work with an unsupported OS X System install, Carbon Copy Cloner. I was hoping SuperDuper might work but when I emailed the author he stated he wasn't too sure about that and that even if it would it would probably take the help of the Carbon Copy Cloner software to get the clone copy to boot. The Dantz, Retrospect web site states that Retrospect won't see all of the invisible files of an unsupported install. So my first question is what is everyone using to back up an unsupported OS X install? Then comes the problem of a disk utility. First off, I find the Apple Disk Utility about useless and it won't work on a boot volume anyway. I have also found its unix cousin about the same as well as a little dangerous as I have come out with more problems than I started with after using it. I have tries Norton Disk Utilities but find it hit and miss and more miss than hit. I have just ordered DiskWarrior and can't wait to try that. All of these utilities on CD though have an inherent problem that I haven't figured out a way around. None of them will boot up the computer from the CD to repair it because to start our systems you need a "hacked"system. My second question then is what disk repair utility are you using and what version? Then part two of that question is how are you booting from it so that you can repair you boot drive? Thank you in advance for all of your help and suggestions.

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