I don't sign any crap like that. From what I understand non-competes don't
really hold water in Utah, anyway. If you're worried, I'd talk to an actual
lawyer.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Steve Meyers <[email protected]>
wrote:

> For the non-compete, I'd think 6 months is sufficient. They need to
> understand that if the definition is too broad, it will just be
> unenforceable anyway, so they should narrow it up a bit (and make it
> unambiguous).
>
> I've taken to amending the "invention" agreements to specify that they
> only own them if they were made on work time. I've never had a company
> have a problem with that, and at least one amended their standard contract.
>
> On 04/17/2015 09:09 AM, David Skinner wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > My company is working on introducing some non-compete documents. I'm
> going
> > through them to recommend some modifications. In the documents they
> state a
> > non-compete period of 2 years following employee termination date.
> >
> > *My question to you all is what is common nowadays for a non-compete time
> > frame?* I've heard that 6 months is typical with 1 year being about as
> long
> > as will hold up in Utah courts.
> >
> > Another section states that "In competition with the Company". Here is a
> > snippet:
> >
> > The phrase “In Competition With The Company” as used throughout Article I
> > of this Agreement will be deemed to include direct or indirect
> competition
> > with the Company or its respective successors or
> > assigns, or the businesses of any of the foregoing. A person, firm,
> > business or enterprise is In Competition With the Company if it is
> engaged
> > in any industries with similar product offerings of the Company. This
> > includes, but is not limited to, the following business operations: (a)
> > publishing and creation of sales and training tools, (b) kit creation and
> > production, (c) online customer relationship management (CRM) tools, (d)
> > online social sharing tools, (e) online prospecting system, (f) other
> > products and services related to direct sales and multi-level marketing
> and
> > (g) fulfillment and
> > distribution of sales tools, for direct sales companies and multi-level
> > marketing companies.
> >
> > I interpret this two ways:
> >
> > * It's considered competition to work for a company that has any CRM
> tools
> > and/or online social sharing tools in general
> > - OR -
> > * It's considered competition to work for a company that has any CRM
> tools
> > and/or online social sharing tools "...for direct sales companies and
> > multi-level marketing companies."
> >
> > *What do you all think about that section? Is it the first interpretation
> > or the second? Or some other option?*
> >
> > One last section mentions that there is a period of 1 year after
> employment
> > where any inventions by the employee "...which relate in any way to or
> > arise out of the Company’s actual and/or anticipated web development or
> > business activities or products, including planned or proposed activities
> > or products..." will be owned by the company.
> >
> > *Is 1 year an acceptable period of time?*
> >
> > Any and all help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David Skinner
> >
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