Given that the local group store supports nesting in other flavors of groups, so one can achieve the effect of managing uPortal adminness in LDAP or via PAGS, restricting these well-named groups to the Local Group Store seems an excellent idea.

Andrew


Eric Dalquist wrote:
I do as well, my only concern are the security implications of some 'un-authorized source' getting another group named "uPortal Administrators" into the system. Though we could restrict these well named groups to just local groups which would make the restrictions easier to implement.

-Eric

Andrew Petro wrote:
I like (1). It's some development effort, but it's a nice step towards "convention over configuration".

Andrew


Eric Dalquist wrote:
Thanks for the update. I have a few ideas for getting rid of the explicit configuration tie to the synthetic group IDs.

1. Switch to just using well known names. An example would be "All uPortal Users" for everyone, "All uPortal Channels" for all channels and "uPortal Administrators" for admins. Some effort would need to be done in the composite group store to prevent these groups from being created by users for security reasons which may be a bit of a road block.

2. Move the config into the database. A table could contain a known real id and the corresponding synthetic id of the designated group. This information could more easily be exported and would reduce the configuration tie to specific group keys.

Thoughts from any devs out there?
-Eric


Drew Wills wrote:
Eric,

I updated dbunload,crn per our discussion on IRC: http://developer.ja-sig.org/source/changelog/jasigsvn/?cs=43464

It still needs some attention, though...

There are 3 rows defined in the UP_GROUP.default-data.xml file, each of which refers to an EntityType by Id: IPerson or IChannel. We either need to include a .default-data.xml file that defines these dependencies, or remove the need for 'Everyone', 'Portal Administrators', and 'All Channels' to have specific Ids.

drew





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