This came up on the Incubation call today.  I'd like to take a poll, should 
this be a uPortal contribution or an incubated portlet?

TC


On May 20, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Jennifer Bourey wrote:

> I thought he had said something about that at the Jasig Unconference.  And 
> yes, *please* do share! :)
> 
> - Jen
> 
> 
> On May 20, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Carroll, Timothy Dale wrote:
> 
>> We have a portlet deployer portlet that we are using for development 
>> purposes.  How about I have Andy submit that for incubation?
>> 
>> TC
>> 
>> 
>> On May 20, 2010, at 8:12 AM, Jennifer Bourey wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> I really appreciate the thoughtful feedback.  It's really helpful to have 
>>> people discuss strategy and desired features on list, and I hope we see 
>>> more discussion in the future :)  A couple comments below:
>>> 
>>>> 1. I like the idea of exposing all the import/export features (even entity 
>>>> types for example) through a web service API.  We do frequent environment 
>>>> reloads for test environments, and I think an API like that would enable 
>>>> some cool batch automations in that area.  And, it may also provide (more 
>>>> readily) support for distributing the load of those batch processes to 
>>>> other machines.  I still see Cernunnos being leveraged here but in a way 
>>>> that allows remoting as a separate distinct application.  Some other uses 
>>>> of this in a prod environment might be extracting that data and 
>>>> munging/analyzing things in an application used for... troubleshooting, 
>>>> reporting, provisioning, or deprovisioning (again running on a separate 
>>>> machine to distribute any load).
>>> 
>>> Sounds like a pretty reasonable use case.  Maybe at some point you could 
>>> help create a list of features that are missing from the existing 
>>> import/export portlet that you'd like to see?  From what you've described, 
>>> it sounds like a first step might be enabling the portlet to consume and 
>>> export multiple files at a time.  Perhaps we could consider having it 
>>> consume and produce zipped directories of files similar to what's in 
>>> uPortal's data directory?
>>> 
>>> I have to admit I've been wanting to figure out how to use the Fluid 
>>> uploader component for that portlet for a while, since it has a very nice 
>>> interface for uploading multiple files.  I'd also love to see a portlet 
>>> deployment portlet, even if it were really only useful for single-machine 
>>> development instances.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 2. The other area I can think of right away would be the actions related 
>>>> to the stats database.  Some analysis tools would likely bubble up quickly 
>>>> as result of some API exposure there.
>>> 
>>> Yes, it would be fantastic to have some stats tools.  I think Eric actually 
>>> has already done a little local work on some analysis tools.  For the 
>>> statistics, I think the most important first step would be to get the stats 
>>> aggregation tool in the sandbox to work with non-Oracle databases.  Once 
>>> that's done, we could turn on the stats service by default and start 
>>> collaborating on some tools.  If you or anyone with some database expertise 
>>> is willing to help out, that would really help get the project moving.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> 
>>> - Jen
>>> 
>>> 
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