Donc pas de preuve EBM de l'int�r�t d'une anticoagulation imm�diate des AVC
associ�s � une FA. C'est ce que l'article qui a initi� cette discussion,
r�v�lait et j'ai donc appris des choses. merci. PT

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> Voici des extraits de la m�ta-analyse de Cochrane qui m'apparaissent fort
> int�ressants. On consid�re l'anticoagulation aigu lorsqu'effectu�e dans les
> 2 SEMAINES de l'�pisode. Aucune cat�gorie de patients ne semble b�n�ficier
> du traitement. Certains passages mettent en doute la pertinence de
> l'anticoagulation prophylaxique pour la MTE dans ce contexte. Ceux qui sont
> int�ress�s � avoir le texte complet peuvent me le faire savoir (PDF de 437
> kb).
>
> "...Acute stroke treatments should aim to prevent disability as well as
> death, lest patients survive their acute stroke only to remain severely
> disabled. The present randomised evidence indicates that routine immediate
> anticoagulation does not provide any net short or long-term reduction in
> death or disability. Although immediate anticoagulation leads to fewer
> recurrent ischaemic strokes, avoiding nine ischaemic strokes per 1000
> patients treated, this benefit is entirely offset by a similar-sized
> increase in the number of intracranial haemorrhages. The net result is no
> short- or long-term benefit..."
>
> "iii) Prevention of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism in acute
> ischaemic stroke.
>
> In patients with presumed or confirmed ischaemic stroke, allocation to
> immediate anticoagulation was associated with a highly significant 79%
> reduction in the odds of deep vein thrombosis during the treatment period,
> similar to that seen with the use of prophylactic heparin in patients
> undergoing different types of surgery (Collins et al 1988).
>
> In this systematic review, the reductions in deep vein thrombosis with acute
> anticoagulation were substantial, with 281 deep vein thromboses prevented
> per 1,000 patients treated. However, as mentioned previously, this estimate
> is based on relatively small numbers of patients, and most of the deep vein
> thromboses detected were asymptomatic. In addition, there was significant
> heterogeneity in the effects of treatment which was difficult to explain.
>
> If however, one accepts the estimate of treatment effect, it is then
> difficult to assess the extent to which it may be generalisable. The stroke
> patients included in the trials of anticoagulants to prevent deep vein
> thrombosis generally had quite severe strokes, and paralysis of one leg
> (with the attendant high risk of deep vein thrombosis) was almost invariably
> present at randomisation. Furthermore, with the widespread intorduction of
> Stroke Units, with policies of early mobilisation and good hydration, the
> risk of deep vein thrombosis may well be lower.
>
> In addition to deep vein thrombosis prevention, the risk of pulmonary
> embolism was also reduced significantly with the use of anticoagulants (OR
> 0.61; CI 0.45 - 0.83), with an additional four pulmonary emboli avoided per
> 1000 patients treated. The overall risk of pulomary embolism appeared to be
> low, and the absolute benefit was small, and so the apparent reduction in
> deep vein thrombosis may have little clinical relevance if there is not a
> correspondingly large reduction in pulmonary embolism. However, there may
> well have been under-ascertainment of pulmonary embolism in all of the
> trials, since pulmonary emboli were not sought systematically. In addition,
> deep vein thrombosis can lead to morbidity (eg. post-phlebitic leg and
> varicose ulcers), but data on these outcomes were not available from the
> trials.
>
> If anticoagulants result in no net increase or decrease in long-term death
> or disability, but do lead to a reduction in the number of deep vein
> thromboses and pulmonary emboli (albeit in immobile patients at higher
> risk), then the benefit of fixed heparin regimens associated with a low risk
> of bleeding (eg. low fixed-dose unfractionated heparin) may yet outweigh the
> increased risk of haemorrhage. Unfortunately, there were insufficient
> randomised data comparing low-dose heparin to aspirin, or to
> non-pharmacological interventions such as compression stockings or early
> mobilisation, to determine what the most effective and safe antithrombotic
> regimen for deep vein thrombosis prophylaxis might be.
>
> However, it is interesting to note from the IST (IST 1997) that the
> frequency of fatal and non-fatal symptomatic pulmonary embolism (perhaps a
> surrogate for the occurrence of deep vein thrombosis) was very similar among
> patients allocated low dose subcutaneous heparin alone (0.8%) and aspirin
> alone (0.7%). Aspirin alone may therefore be an adequate antithrombotic
> agent to be used for routine deep vein thrombosis prophylaxis in many
> patients with acute ischaemic stroke. There is substantial evidence to
> support the use of antiplatelets in deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary
> embolism prophylaxis in other categories of high-risk patients (APT 1994b).
>
> Finally, it is possible that once anticoagulants are stopped, rebound
> thrombosis could occur, and deep vein thromboses may begin to develop. We
> were unable to exclude this possibility because no trials sought deep vein
> thrombosis systematically after the treatment period. "
>
> v) Different categories of patient..
>
> This systematic review provides information about the use of anticoagulants
> in stroke patients in general, as well as limited information about various
> subgroups. It is recognised that the evaluation of subgroups should only be
> undertaken with caution due to the increased potential for error due to the
> smaller numbers of patients and outcomes being evaluated. With that
> qualification in mind, the small amounts of (randomised) sub-group data
> evaluated here do not provide any evidence to support the routine use of
> anticoagulants in any specific category of stroke patient, including those
> with: cardioembolic stroke, 'stroke in progression', vertebrobasilar
> territory stroke, or following thrombolysis for acute ischaemic stroke to
> prevent re-thrombosis of the treated cerebral artery."
>
> MC
>
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> c�r�bral. 
>
> ATTENTION!!!
> Ne me faites pas dire ce que je n'ai pas dit.
> - Il faut faire le SCAN en urgence!!!
> - IL est FORMELLEMENT indiqu� d'administrer de l'HBPM SC � DOSES PREVENTIVES
> dans l'AVC isch�mique, ce en pr�vention de la maladie thromboembolique. La
> discussion portait sur l'anticoagulation curative
> Par ailleurs, il persiste de rares indications � l'anticoagulation
> th�rapeutique :
> 1- les porteurs de valve m�canique (relais des AVK)
> 2- 2 situations, o� m�me en l'absence de preuve certaine, il y a un fort
> consensus professionnel : la dissection carotidienne, et la thrombophl�bite
> c�r�brale (voir �tude de l'�quipe de Heidelberg)

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