Menu and Toolbar Preferences : Uncheck "Detachable Toolbars" -Rob
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 00:40 +0200, Samuel Abels wrote: > On Tue, 2005-29-03 at 22:35 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: > > I've noticed that developers are increasingly getting rid of the > > GtkHandleBox from their application toolbars. Was this a conscious > > decision, was there some sort of plan (a detail in the HIG update I > > missed?) or did lots of developers all independantly come to the same > > conclusion that it was a waste of space? > > I am one of those developers, my decision was mainly based on the fact > that I believe toolbars to be a very technical thing providing only > insignificant improvement - you can do the same without the box, and > without the handle the windows IMO look better and even easier to use > (considering that less widgets = more usability). > > (Look at Muine (which is not my application), for an example; > http://muine.gooeylinux.org/muine.png ) > > I admit that I implemented the same even though expecting the HIG to > recommend against it, however, I just checked back and haven't found > that explicitly stated there. > > > Perhaps part of the problem is that GTK doesn't provide enough > > infrastructure for laying out toolbars (a proper toolbar dock system) so > > that removing this minor feature is no big deal. > > Maybe in some cases that applies, I personally found toolbars to be > sufficiently easy to use and I didn't use it anyway for the above > reasons. > > > If there was a > > mechanism to hide the handles developers wouldn't have aesthetics as an > > excuse to want to work around and remove it. > > Microsoft Internet explorer > > has long had an option "Lock Toolbars" which nicely hides the Toolbar > > Handles and help prevent any accidental rearraranging or customisation of > > the toolbars. > > I would like that very much, and this would definitely make me use the > toolbar widget in my applications. That preference would be great even > if the option was not exposed in the GUI (like, a gconf key). > In fact, I even created a theme which makes handles almost invisible. > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=16301 > > Of course, the handle is still there, but it doesn't look that way. You > can still tell from the spacing though, this is also only possible with > some of the theme engines. > > -Samuel _______________________________________________ Usability mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
