Good point. And I might add, we have not considered the REASON for the glass 
being half full. Did the imbiber not particularly like the wine? In which case, 
we would be well advised not to finish it! It could also be that the imbiber 
had quite enough wine, and fell senseless upon the floor, which would free us 
up to finish the remaining beverage. But that raises a whole slew of other 
questions, such as, where is the imbiber now? Did he sober up and leave the 
room? If so, then the wine is probably now fairly warm, and, no one has 
considered if it is even perhaps a bit spoilt, leaving us back where we 
started. 

I don't see how we can get any further along without first addressing these 
vital points. I for one say let's get some new wine glasses and a fresh bottle 
and dispense with the old wine! 

Bob


On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Richmond wrote:

> On 12/06/2010 11:45 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:
>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Keith Clarke wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2010, at 17:16, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Optimist - The glass is half full.
>>>>> Pessimist - The glass is half empty.
>>>>> Engineer - The glass is twice a large as it needs to be.
>>>> Mathmetician - The glass is BOTH half empty AND half full.
>>> Zen monk - There is no glass... there is no monk.
>> 
>> Gourmand - the glass *was* half full.... I think it was a 2007 Cab, a bit 
>> too fruity, I'd give it an 89.
>> 
> What fusses me is that in all of this discussion about half-full glasses 
> there is not reference to
> the person(s) who perceive(s) the glass to be half-full: a tree falling in a 
> forest where there are
> no witnesses makes no sound.
> 
> Now, in my experience as a Philosophy graduate; a half full wine glass 
> generally requires
> the involvement of a partially sated wine-bibber.
> 
> What we really need to consider here is how many half-glasses have to be 
> imbibed before the
> wine-bibber is unable to tell whether the glass in front of him/her is full, 
> half-full, empty, broken
> on the floor, rolled under the table, or morphed into a frog that has then 
> winked in a highly
> satirical fashion at the wine-bibber!
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