Todd Geist wrote:
Frameworks exist for many other languages. PHP, Java, Groovy, Ruby, Python,
all have multiple frameworks. Ruby simply would not be the big deal it is
today if it had not been for Rails.

It would be great if Live Code had one.

And here you are, using one. :)

Personally I prefer a world in which frameworks come from the community and RunRev focuses on the engine. I think it puts resources where they can be best applied, as with Rails and Ruby, Drupal and PHP, and so many others.

Perhaps the biggest difference between LC and those other languages is that those are open source, which does wonders for adoption among programming languages perhaps more than in any other category.

With the unmatchable large audience possible with open languages, there are so many people using them that the 0.1% inclined to make frameworks is a sizable number.

IMO LiveCode offers an unbeatable ROI over alternatives, which is why I use it for most of my work. And as its audience grows by the leaps and bounds we've seen in the last two years, the range of tools has expanded greatly along with it.

But will it ever grow to a million active users, in which 0.1% would mean more than enough frameworks for every taste and need? I'd like to see that, but in the meantime I'm working with others in our own modest way toward making frameworks and other interoperable components easier to make and use through the Rev Interoperability Project:

<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/>

The initiatives on the plate currently in the RIP group are somewhat modest, but they're beginning for form a foundation on which people can craft both end-user apps for their customers and IDE toolkits for themselves more easily.

The group is open to all who are interested in community software - dive in, the water's fine.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com
 LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv

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