To me the nav-bar is pretty much useless the way it is. It is a problem with widgets in general that they often do not allow fine grained customization as long as they do not give access to all properties and other settings and di what all other controls can do. And writing myself a nav-bar with LCB? It limits rather than is expanding. Or will we all go for LCB doing everything "there"?
A standard "group" with some nice SVG icons does the trick of a nav-bar easily and under full control. (By the way, what is this HTML button widget meant to do? I searched 40 minutes and still have no clue... Is this my fault to scratch my head?) I would rather like to see standard controls with the enhancement of fully matching CSS-3 specs. That would be controlling UIX on the level of today's expectations. Why do I have to mimick padding, full control of each side of rects, box models etc.? That should be available "out of the box". CSS is the guide. And the IDE mostly looks ugly. Tons of beautifully designed interfaces are competing. As a newbie, I would be distracted looking at today's LiveCode IDE. A cramped toolbar, black-white. Ugly looking controls... ... I stop here. It needs a designer. There is flat design, Windows new UIX guides, Apples UIX guides, Googles material UIX... But we still use default buttons that remind me of 10-20 years ago. I do change them. But why are there no really cool default themes packed with the product? Several modern styles of buttons? Predefinde fields with labels, It is not sooooo much work to do. "You can all do this yourself..." -- is not the answer. I do that already. But an intelligent thoughtful default design of all our controls would sell. And the stack window needs a customizable scroller, vertical and horizontal, not a group doing that. It is expected standard. For beginners, the choice is about what looks "coooool" first of all, not understanding anything behind the curtain yet. Color and form lead to a choice. They signal the level of promise, and if the promise is fulfilled, the product shines and will be promoted by users. There are millions of webdesigners, not really programmers. A huge market. Would they not like to involve LiveCode and even pay for it? They all learn HTML, CSS and ... JavaScript, or they are quickly out of business. Where is the bridge? Designing for the web in LC? Translating to JavaScript source code? (Our web HTML solution does not seem to take off and takes too much time to download and is too much limited. I could not recommend to serious customers.) So, what does LC offer to those millions? Hard-core developers will continue looking down on LC thinking of it to be a kind of toy. (It is not.) Sorry for going beyond the nav-bar. Who needs LC? I have answers, but fear that they are no longer convincing enough. With appreciation and love for LiveCode. But I am concerned. Roland _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode