Mark:

> It's actually OSX where CEF usage was
> dropped, not Windows.

Yep, it actually feels great to be a Windows-first LiveCoder. Ironically, things "just work." In fact I'm doing a Windows app right now, using - guess what - the Browser widget. Works a treat.

It's hard to overstate how important embedded Browser support is. Along with, of course, the field object, which can do much more than most people realize. (The cliques and promoters/repeaters in this LC community always breathlessly push certain resources, at the expense of awareness about others.) Like the field, embedded Browser is a way to deliver and display so many different kinds of content that it should be considered a foundational part of LC. Can't afford to let it slip.

And the Browser needs to work fairly seamlessly cross-platform, to a reasonable extent. That's why we're all here, right?

About Windows: Once upon a time I was a big Mac guy and Mac-first shareware author. I was all about Mac...until Apple made some dumb and hypocritical UI decisions, contradicting their own doctrine repeatedly and destructively. They took a crowbar to the beloved Mac OS and made it much less convenient and satisfying to use.

I never jumped ship onto the Linux rowboat. Nice to have that platform - and by all means it should be supported. I'm still an enthusiastic Mac-second developer, and I welcome Linux work on occasion, but I adopted Windows as my primary OS since their UI had some advantages. To this day I'm very happy to be firmly cross-platform and proudly Windows-first.

Now that I have an SSD, the LC script editor troubles are a thing of the past too. LC simply made the mistake of designing broadly-used software on high-end hardware, so it wasn't a great design, especially for the masses. (Strange because that's usually a beginner's mistake.) Remember how the newly open-source LC was going to open up the world of coding to the third-world masses? Nope, not gonna happen, not with that kind of disk usage! I always design on budget hardware, so that at least the middle class can use the end product too.

But now SSD has become the standard for new budget hardware, so very soon that will be moot - once again LC runs just fine with modern antivirus and Windows 10. (Talking about a real Windows computer - hi Richmond - and not a partition or virtualized system. Real PC, real Mac is the way to go.) So for users stuck on "the dark side" of Mac or Linux - the grass really is greener over here at the moment. Fingers crossed.

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
"Better Methods, Better Results"
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/

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