BTW, I like the idea of putting a reference link to the lessons in the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter. It's an easy thing to do and I think it would help.

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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On February 15, 2021 12:26:30 AM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

I had to check and the lessons are in fact in both the Help and Resources
menus but they are called Tutorials. Both link to the lessons site. I never
actually looked at those before, I only knew about the lessons from
elsewhere and I always use a bookmark to get there.

Like you, I don't want to go through a long tutorial, I just want to know
the bits that apply to a particular problem I need to solve. The lessons do
that for me. It seems like there should be a different name for the menu
item but I can't think what. "Tutorial" sounds time consuming.

But renaming the menu wouldn't solve the fact that I never actually
explored it. My bad.

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On February 14, 2021 7:47:43 PM William Prothero <waproth...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jacqueline:
I didn’t know about http://lessons.livecode.com
<http://lessons.livecode.com/>. Thank you for letting me know of that
resource. It looks very useful and I like the user feedback part.

To be clear, it is my intent to stimulate thought toward opportunities, not
to complain.

In a way, my ignorance of the lessons link illustrates my point. Where is
the marketing? Why aren’t these contributions mentioned in the “This Week
In Llivecode” mailing? I am busy with many things other than programming. I
read all of the emails from this list. Yet, I didn’t know about this
compilation. These could be promoted/marketed, not only to potential new
users, but to existing ones.

I think if folks would check out the example site I mentioned, they would
see more what I’m suggesting. http://macmost.com <http://macmost.com/>

Andre Garza’s post about his planning to write a book on some aspect of
Livecode programming got me thinking about this. First, I think writing
books is useful, but the way many busy folks access information on the
internet is in more as smaller more targeted bites. I play jazz keyboard. A
couple of years ago, I subscribed to a site that gave me access to jazz
song sheet music included in video lessons lasting 30-60 minutes each. At
the same time, from a couple other  authors, I got regular (about once a
week) emails with short free improv techniques that took me 5-10 minutes to
read, but with offers (at a cost) that include more in-depth lessons. I
find that I use the short lessons a lot and the longer lessons, that I have
already paid for with my one year subscription, very little if at all.
Perhaps I’m unusual with a very short attention span, but I suspect I'm
more typical. I’m suggesting that there are unused marketing and support
strategies that could be beneficial to the Livecode enterprise. Check out
the macmost site to see what I’m talking about.

Peace to you all and thanks for all the help you have given me in my projects,

Be well,
Bill Prothero



On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:43 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

There is a whole lot more at http://lessons.livecode.com. While these
aren't videos, the amount of info there is impressive and lessons are added
all the time.

Personally I find written instructions much easier to follow and they don't
require me to spend extra time watching a video and needing to
run/pause/run/search for the section I want to review.

The lessons site should be prominently displayed in the Help menu.

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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On February 14, 2021 11:27:24 AM ELS Prothero via use-livecode
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Curry,
Your comments echo some of my experiences with Livecode. In olden times,
when I realized that I could significantly improve my students’ learning by
enlisting computers, I began with HyperCard, went to Supercard, and when it
failed at cross platform, I went to Macromedia Director.  I’ve programmed
in FORTRAN, Pascal. When Adobe bought and killed Director, I switched my
coding to LiveCode.


William Prothero
waproth...@gmail.com




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