Hi Paul,

Several years ago - 6-8-10 years ago? Not sure when - I left VMs behind in favor of minimally-configured actual hardware. I have a couple of Windows laptops but almost never use them now. My main development world consists of 4 Mac minis of various ages (all Intel or M1) and a couple of 2015 MBP laptops (and 2 iPads). Each machine has an external drive used by Time Machine, so I can restore my work as needed. I use Screen Sharing to manage things on multiple computers from a single keyboard/display/mouse and it works great for my purposes. I confess, I don't normally reinstall the OSes except for upgrades to the next version if needed (e.g. High Sierra to Mojave); I just keep them current with Apple updates and have never had a dev issue that damaged the OS.

Obviously my setup doesn't cover every macOS version, but my selected hardware+OS combos have been very adequate for my needs. And for me, it helps to have a LAN whose physical and conceptual topologies are the same. It helps clarify problem sources in a client/server system I maintain.

Hope this helps -
Phil Davis


On 10/26/21 2:08 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
A problem I have struggled with for decades is software testing on the various versions of operating systems our software deploys on.

For testing on Windows, we use Virtualbox with Virtual Machines (VMs) for Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10 (we have yet to try to build a Windows 11 VM)

For macOS we have tried a multi-boot system, a mac Mini with hard disks partitions to boot to OSX 10.9, 10.10, 10.11, 10.12, 10.13, and 10.14 (Mojave). We tried a partition for 10.15 Catalina, but were were already experience problems switching between boot partitions where the Mini would forget what Startup disk it should boot from. When we added Catalina, the problem became worse, trying to go from Catalina to an older OS on reboot or vice versa would fail.

So we tried a Mojave (10.14) laptop with Virtualbox and build a Catalina VM. This worked well for Catalina testing. We like VMs for the ability to reset to a snapshot or to clone them. We added a Big Sur VM, but playing video does not work in the VM and Virtualbox's latest release has not fixed this and macOS VMs are not really supported, even on mac hardware. We just tried a Monterey VM and it is unstable. It will crash and reboot after a random amount of time.

Some sort of virtual machine is very appealing because of the ability to restore the machine to a snapshot after testing or to clone it. If testing messes something up, you can always get back to a known state without rebuilding a computer.

What have other people's experiences been? Does anyone have a more stable, easier solution?

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