Sorry, I left out the punch line.

My original need was simply to extract the text tracks from the old .mov files. 
It turns out you can do that, after a fashion, with QT Pro, but it comes out 
with lots of binary cruft. I found out you can also do this with ffmpeg, the 
Swiss Army Knife of video tools. This website explains how:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/403944-Extract-and-convert-QuickTime-7-Pro-TextTracks

Neither method was perfect, but both were good enough for what I wanted.

- Devin

On May 18, 2022, at 2:36 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I wanted to follow up with what I eventually ended up 
doing.

So, both Jacque’s and Richmond’s suggestions were good, but too much work for 
just peeking at some text tracks. But they got me thinking: Hey, Windows 10 
actually still runs QT 7, and I have an old QT Pro license key for Windows. I 
wonder if it still works. (Spoiler alert—it does!) So I was at least able to 
open up the movie files. Score 1 for Microsoft and backward compatibility! And 
there, magically, were my text tracks!

Paul, I think your suggestion to encourage LiveCode to support text track 
access that exists in the modern AV frameworks is a great one. Maybe timely, 
now that the mothership has asked for top 10 bug fix requests again.

Richard, thanks for pointing me in the direction of HTML 5. It set me on a 
little journey to educate myself on the state of video captioning in *this* 
century! Definitely glad I took that little detour and learned about WebVTT 
captioning format.

Thanks again for the help and suggestions. This community never disappoints!

- Devin

On May 17, 2022, at 2:16 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
 wrote:

Or you could use an OS 9 emulator like SheepShaver where the old version of QT 
is available.
<https://sheepshaver.cebix.net/>


On 5/17/22 1:02 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
Here's a thought:
Dig out an old mac that runs, say, MacOS 10.6 or 10.7 and then follow this:
https://synchrimedia.blogspot.com/2016/02/extracting-qt-text-tracks-from-movies.html
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