I emailed this privately to Brian, but I'll include it here for everyone, too. The versions of the LCB manuals that are on LC's website (at least the ones that I was able to find), are dated. The versions that are included embedded in LC are much more complete (though still missing things). Until I was putting the wiki together, I didn't realize they were different. So, until LC updates the version on the site, use the version that's embedded in LC itself. Anyway, Brian, it would be good to either have a "gotchas" page or another wiki pages about aliased properties having to be defined before they are aliased. I think it would be good to add examples to the wiki as well, to make it easier for more people to approach LCB, faster.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 9:48 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I guess I never answered the original question: > > The editor type isn't a LCB thing. Those are a part of the IDE. Here is > the path from the open source repository: > .../livecode/ide/Toolset/palettes/inspector/editors/ > You should also be able to find them in your local install of LC. > /Applications/LiveCode/LiveCode 9.6.9 (rc > 1).app/Contents/Tools/Toolset/palettes/inspector/editors/ > I agree that they should be documented somewhere. Looking at the names > there, most that you would use are probably fairly evident. > > The LiveCode Builder Style Guide/Widget specific guidelines covers the 4 > entries needed to use many of the PI editors. There is one in a widget > that could be useful though "user_visible" - this property is not displayed > in the PI but is available to get/set. "options" looks to be specific to > the "enum" editor. > > The Extending Livecode Guide covers the 4 that are needed for the widget as > a whole. It does look like there are a few additional ones used in widgets > that are not mentioned that should be included in the docs (os, svgicon, > preferredsize, userVisible, _ide). > > I tend to be fairly adept at reading and understanding code - even if I > don't know the syntax well enough to write it. So I didn't really read the > documentation to learn LCB (but referenced the syntax and style guide as > needed), but read the widgets that I was working on. As such, the things > you are having difficulty finding didn't really impact my efforts. I was > mainly extending the widget and was just copying existing code as a model > when adding things (properties and handlers). About the only thing that > really tripped me up was aliased properties. You have to define the main > property and then alias works. If you define the alias, then it doesn't > work (TreeView widget - scroll vice vscroll). Considering all of this, I > consider all of the included LCB source code as part of the documentation > for LCB. > > I'll add some comments to your "issues" > > Thanks, > Brian > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 3:49 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I was about to call you out, too, Brian. > > I started trying to work with LCB several years ago, kept slamming into > > things that weren't documented, and decided I had better things to do > with > > my time. > > Now I'm back at it, but I don't think it should be such a black hole, > > especially when I put it down for a couple of months and then want to get > > back into it. > > If we want other people to take the plunge, and maybe invent cool stuff > > using it, something better than what exists, now, should exist. > > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 3:36 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > Honestly the way I learned the most about LCB was working on the LC > > > widgets. There is plenty of example code there but you just have to > > spend > > > time understanding what you are reading. > > > > > > Brian Milby > > > br...@milby7.com > > > > > > > On Sep 10, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I was trying to work on Ralph's improvements on the navBar and I > kept > > > > getting bitten by the thin documentation of lcb, so for my own > > benefit, i > > > > started a wiki and issues list to fill in the blanks > > > > Please help me learn lcb by adding to both of these. > > > > The wiki: https://github.com/macMikey/LCB-missing-manual/wiki > > > > The issues: https://github.com/macMikey/LCB-missing-manual/issues > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 8:42 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < > > > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> On 9/2/22 16:54, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: > > > >>> Did a simple test with 819kb json file: > > > >>> - JSON Library / LCB 5400 ms > > > >>> - PhotonJSON / LCS 400 ms > > > >>> - mergJSON / extension 250 ms > > > >> > > > >> That's impressive. 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