> On 25 Jul 2023, at 01:24, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> it's not that it isn't there, it's that it isn't in a state that is
> ready-for-prime-time


I’ve had to abandon a project and hence a client and hence LiveCode all 
together because of this single solitary issue. My company went bankrupt and is 
now dissolved because of this. 

LC have told me not to speak out against them as a company on this platform for 
fear of being removed from this chat area. Sure, some of the decisions made by 
me have led to the dissolving of Pi Digital Productions Ltd, but a lot WAS 
based on the PROMISE made pre-pandemic by LC that HTML5 would be ready for 
live, non-beta use ‘soon’. 

4 years on and having paid for a HTML5 licence I STILL have not been able to 
use, clients become frustrated and annoyed that we STILL have been unable to 
deliver and the bitten bullet eventually explodes in our faces. 

This is the primary reason I have not been heard from on this area for a while 
now. I am now working as a shop assistant in a local shop having moved to a 
remote area on the Isle of Skye. There’s not many employers who will take 
LiveCode experience as experience of coding. And there’s little hope of finding 
clients who will want or have their apps coded in LC. 

Theoretically I should ask for a refund on the HTML license as they have simply 
not delivered on their promise. But I can’t be bothered with the hassle of 
arguing with a company who just don’t seem to listen. I know a lot of you here 
will disagree- but I can only speak from my own experience over the last 17 
years. Besides, a refund would not come close to the amount my company 
haemorrhaged as a direct result of LC failing to deliver. 

There, I’m guessing this will get me banned from this platform but, seeing as I 
can no longer use LC for anything practical, I suppose it no longer matters and 
most of you hear will be thinking ‘good riddance’ anyway. 

Like me, LC will fail if they continue to be incapable of delivering on 
promises. Adding new features and/or applications without sorting out current 
ones and actually getting them into the wild will just add new problems and 
forget old ones. Our clients cannot work on a 5 year turnaround so how can LC 
continue to think we can accept it? It’s impossible working conditions. If a 
boss offered you better working conditions in a place of work but took 5 years 
to deliver on that promise, what would you think of them as a manager? This is 
effectively what was suffered. It amounts to unfair treatment in the workplace 
and caused me a great deal of anguish over the years, as many of you are well 
aware.

My hope is that LC read this for your benefits and learn from it. It’s too late 
for me - I’ve moved on. But hopefully they can get v10 and HTML out sooner 
rather than later so that you can actually begin to make use of your 
investments. 

All the best and peace to you all. 

Sean Cole
Ex Director of Pi Digital

Over and out. 
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