talk to tom glod. he trained a gpt model for lc On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 3:13=E2=80=AFPM Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Dear all, > > I'm an avid AI user, and I'd like to share some of my experiences: > > I've achieved the best programming results using Gemini 2.5 Pro. (In my > opinion, it's currently much more powerful than models like ChatGPT-1o > or Claude 3.7 Sonnet). You can access Gemini 2.5 Pro for free via Google > AI Studio: https://aistudio.google.com/. You'll need to select the > Gemini 2.5 Pro model. For now, it's free to use and offers a very large > context window (up to 1 million tokens). If you hit processing limits or > want to start fresh, you can simply begin a new chat. > > However, when it comes to querying the AI about LiveCode, the results > are often disappointing. This seems largely due to the limited amount of > online documentation and examples available for LiveCode compared to > languages like Python, Golang, or C++. > > My experience using AI for developing Python, Flutter and Golang > applications suggests it's currently most effective for very small > projects. Once you surpass roughly 2,000 lines of code, I find that AIs > tend to introduce significantly more bugs. While you can mitigate this > somewhat by splitting the code into smaller chunks, I don't currently > see AI as a replacement for a human programmer. > > Furthermore, even if an AI can generate a small Golang, Python or > Flutter app, maintaining and scaling that code over the long term > becomes very difficult. This is where LiveCode shines, with its > significant advantages in development speed, simplicity, and exceptional > code readability. > > Honestly, at least for now, I don't perceive AI as a serious threat to > LiveCode development, but at the same time, AI is not very helpful with > Livecode. > > Best, > Hery > > On 3/9/25 06:43, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > > > What a beautiful experience, so true. As always, something like AI > > should be viewed as a surgical tool to be used only when necessary and > > not relied solely upon. It=E2=80=99s useful but it only really gets us = most of > > the way there. You still have to encapsulate it properly and adjust it > > to fully meet your requirements. > > > > Thank you > > > > Sean Cole > > Pi Digital > > > >> On 7 Mar 2025, at 16:44, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > >> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >> When I was young (a long time ago) the company I was with hired a new > >> graphics designer. All he knew was the conventional method for > >> prepress and he designed all his art accordingly. > >> > >> When I told him about the new Digital Prepress he told me that it > >> still could not be done, because his professor at Orange Coast > >> college had told him that it was at least 10 years off. > >> > >> So I designed the next book cover and produced it using digital > >> prepress through a service bureau, which impressed him greatly. Now a > >> great deal f what he produces for publishing is done with software. > >> He never uses =E2=80=9Cart boards=E2=80=9D anymore because it simply i= sn=E2=80=99t necessary. > >> > >> There aren=E2=80=99t many graphic artists left who actually understood= the > >> process of producing the film and plates for CMYK printing, which > >> involved underexposing or overexposing different elements of the > >> graphic layout in order to avoid thin white lines around objects > >> because the film or plates never aligned precisely. > >> > >> The knowledge is now almost completely lost, so that if the > >> technology of digital prepress is ever lost or unavailable, it=E2=80= =99s > >> doubtful anyone would know how or have the equipment to perform the > >> task in the old conventional way. > >> > >> I fear the same thing may end up happening with AI and not just with > >> programming. We already have the phenomenon of people not being able > >> to think for themselves, but simply believing what =E2=80=9Cexperts=E2= =80=9D tell > >> them is true about a given subject or issue. With the advent of AI, I > >> think we can expect this effect to increase dramatically. > >> > >> Artificial Intelligence is precicely that: Artificial. It=E2=80=99s re= ally > >> only a mask hiding the fact that real people are providing input to > >> train a recursive algorithm to favor one outcome over another. It=E2= =80=99s > >> just people saying, =E2=80=9CNot thus, but thus.=E2=80=9D > >> > >> Bob S > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > --=20 On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. 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